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re: How is DeSantis Establishment?
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:44 am to Bunk Moreland
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:44 am to Bunk Moreland
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Lincoln Project pedo warmongers and Paul Ryan are lining up behind him. You don't think he will carry out neocon and chamber of commerce policy? I have major questions about him turning into a globalist stooge. But, he's probably the best we have at this point.
Tell me you know nothing without telling me you know nothing
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Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:45 am to mule74
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but he’s not winning in 2024.
He won't win because the people trying to push Desantis now and fighting the Trump side will sit home waiting to say "I told you so". It's the going to be the "mean tweets" of '24.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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So are you just going to vote Democrat in 2026 and beyond?
Yea. That’s exactly what I was getting at.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:51 am to elposter
The same people that bash DeSantis for what donations he accepts will gladly support another candidate if Trump is behind them even if their coffers are full of donations from the same groups supporting DeSantis.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:53 am to RollTide1987
Women don't want their kids to grow up to be jerk offs....by and large. Social conservatives can accept imperfections in character . Independents want someone who is sane....and they tend to be conservative family people . They held their nose and voted for Trump over Hillary and by and large did it in 2020. But since the 2020 b.s.they want Trump gone.
The money wants Trump gone. Listen to the money. I remember in 2020 Sheldon Adelson had to be cajoled into giving money to Trump. Adelson was always generous with his money up until that.
The money wants Trump gone. Listen to the money. I remember in 2020 Sheldon Adelson had to be cajoled into giving money to Trump. Adelson was always generous with his money up until that.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:01 am to Zap Rowsdower
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:08 am to TigerVespamon
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See, this is the problem. Do you really think the establishment cares about woke or not woke? Really?
Sure fighting the woke cultural war is important but for the DC establishment they don't care which way the cultural winds blow. Not one iota.
What they care about are your policies on borders, trade and war. You can be stabbing babies just out of the womb or voting to ban abortion in all cases but if you have the right policy position on borders, trade and war you get DC establishment support. That's where they make their money and it's on the backs of the middle class.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 12:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It's because any non-Trump candidate will get support from the wing of the GOP that Trump declared nuclear war on, so, the implication is that support means that RDS will become their bitch. This same logic didn't apply to the KKK or David Duke endorsing Trump in 2016, though.
You're really comparing a few hundred yahoos with no power to the GOP establishment with hundreds of federal politicians, powerful donors, and access to hundreds of millions of dollars? Hopefully you can come up with a better excuse for how a politician that takes millions from establishment sources won't be beholden to their interests before the next election.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 12:34 pm to 14&Counting
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The Trump cultists are still in the denial phase
Trump cultists seem to be the only ones not willing to run back into the arms of the same people that gave us such wonderful candidates as McCain and Romney. They've failed us for decades but they'll get it right this time if we only vote for who they want. Talk about denial.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 12:34 pm to Jake88
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Lincoln Project pedo warmongers and Paul Ryan are lining up behind him.
So what? They'd line up behind anyone not Trump. Can he help who supports him? While Trump was following Fauci on COVID, DeSantis went his own way. DeSantis is much more a leader than Trump.
The Lincoln Grifters are Dems now. Anyone who thinks they would support DeSantis shouldn't be allowed to drive
This post was edited on 11/10/22 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 11/10/22 at 12:40 pm to Zap Rowsdower
Who said he is establishment? I think he is a very good Governor so far and if he does face Trump in a primary and wins I will vote for him pending he remains in his positions. I think the establishment will try to use him to take out Trump then turn thier back on him too which in why I don't think it would be wise for him to run yet.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 12:45 pm to KAGTASTIC
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He won't win because the people trying to push Desantis now and fighting the Trump side will sit home waiting to say "I told you so". It's the going to be the "mean tweets" of '24.
Trump sealed his fate by bitching about 2020 for 2 years.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 12:54 pm to Zap Rowsdower
I don't understand, for the life of me, how this strange "war" got started. I'm a huge supporter of both Trump and Desantis. I would like to see Trump back in office in '24, and then Desantis in '28. The only disagreement I've had is with those who want to see Desantis in '24. The way I see it, Trump is our strongest leader, and he's also getting up in age. I'd like him to have the rightful 2nd term that was stolen from him, before we move on to Desantis, who has plenty of time and can wait his turn.
But now, I see people bashing Trump, or bashing Desantis, and I just don't get it. Now the two men, themselves, are supposedly feuding? Why? I don't see "establishment" in Desantis, at all.
But now, I see people bashing Trump, or bashing Desantis, and I just don't get it. Now the two men, themselves, are supposedly feuding? Why? I don't see "establishment" in Desantis, at all.
This post was edited on 11/10/22 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 11/10/22 at 12:59 pm to jlnoles79
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Trump sealed his fate by bitching about 2020 for 2 years.
Completely disagree. You don't have an entire governmental system cheat the country out of the candidate they lawfully elected, and just sit quietly. The only people who had a problem with him standing up for himself and the rule of law, are those who never supported him to begin with.
This post was edited on 11/10/22 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 11/10/22 at 1:00 pm to Zap Rowsdower
It's just that Pack of Panicking Pussies that invade the board on election days.
Led by their she-wolf, SFP.
Led by their she-wolf, SFP.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 1:02 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Lincoln Projec
Link?
Or are you just throwing anything against the wall to see what sticks?
Posted on 11/10/22 at 1:02 pm to Metaloctopus
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I don't see "establishment" in Desantis, at all.
He hasn't been, to this point. But then you can name conservative after conservative who was sent to Washington, only to become a spineless, capitulating shitbag. If the establishment coopts DeSantis, funds him, brings him under their wing, then he is beholden to the very entity that has destroyed the conservative movement over the last 40 years.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 1:03 pm to Metaloctopus
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I don't understand, for the life of me, how this strange "war" got started.
Leftist Mind Tricks.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 1:15 pm to troyt37
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He hasn't been, to this point. But then you can name conservative after conservative who was sent to Washington, only to become a spineless, capitulating shitbag. If the establishment coopts DeSantis, funds him, brings him under their wing, then he is beholden to the very entity that has destroyed the conservative movement over the last 40 years.
Sure, we can name those people. But I can also look at pretty much all of them and say their track record wasn't "conservative" to begin with. We've always had "moderate" puppets like the Bush's, as the big "stars" on the right. Desantis' track record cannot be denied at this point to be very strongly conservative. So if people are going to hate on him because of some future version of himself that they've imagined, but haven't seen, then why support anyone?
Posted on 11/10/22 at 6:51 pm to Zap Rowsdower
Not bad. They haven’t even finished counting and already they have split us in half. Republicans are pathetic.
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