re: Here are 50 MAJOR wins from Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill that the media is ignoring

Where did you get those numbers from? I don't think they're right.

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Why the frick aren't we taxing tips?

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Lol. You are paying someone more to go after someone who makes less than they do in tips.

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Nope. No carveouts. Tax all income equally, or don’t tax it at all.

Standard deductions are fine—they apply to everyone. But pandering is garbage policy

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You wont even get that from libertarians because they won't vote on tax cuts.


You might have the right idea. But be in the present. Any small tax cut is a win.


Trump is trying to raise your standard deduction. Take it.

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They can do a reconciliation bill that doesn't increase the deficit.

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But can they do a budget reconciliation bill that the CBO won't claim increases the deficit? The answer is no, because the CBO hates tax cuts.

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35.Stops Chinese ownership of U.S. farmland — our soil is finally protected!.

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I'm all for it but logistically how does this actually work?

All of these things are worth losing because we aren't reducing spending enough immediately.

- myopic conservatives

It's just weird so many Republicans are choosing now to put their foot down. So many times, bloated bills were passed where we got nothing in return. Now that we are getting dozens of positive things, even a minor reprieve in spending, they've finally been pushed too far.

Choosing to die on this hill when we have a proven economic leader in the White House before that leader has a real chance to grow the stifled economy is odd timing. Unfortunate, some might say.

So much of that is naked vote buying and I’m surprised people on the right on this site are so happy with it.

Taxes on tips is such an easy example. We already complain about how ~50% of Americans don’t pay income tax…. “Make it higher!”

Tax on overtime is the same.

Child tax credit. This program was started in 1997 at $400, but of course daddy government wants to use it to buy votes…

Many of the above phase out in 2028/2029 so only 3-4 years of their expense is factored into the 10yr projection.

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5.$1.6 trillion in spending cuts — the largest rollback of government bloat in U.S. history.

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It's a cut in the growth (read: potential growth) of spending and it's over the next 10 years. That's $160B, which means about an 8% cut to the growth of spending each year. Spending will still continue to grow, just (ideally) 8% less for the next 10 years (and that percentage will likely shrink as deficits continue to grow). This is also just in specific avenues of spending growth, there's nothing stopping spending from growing along other avenues to replace that (which is what often happens).

That's not a win, that's smoke and mirrors. If it was truly the win they proclaim it as, they wouldn't be using linguistic gymnastics to portray it as a cut to total spending.

In addition to counting tax cuts, cuts in place but expiring, as spending towards the deficit there's another [necessary] accounting trick here that one has to watch for.

Let's say $100 billion gets 'moved' from USAID (State Dept) to the border wall (Interior/Homeland). Well money doesn't get 'moved' in the federal government. We would consider that a net 0 in our homes.

The accounting would show a 100 bln spending cut AND a 100 bln spending increase.

Those that support the bill would claim they cut $100 bln from State.

Those that oppose it would claim they increased spending by $100 bln.

Both are wrong technically, it was a net 0. But because of accounting by the CBO both can make the claim.

In short, by only talking about one aspect it makes it so much easier to us to be lied to.

When you are only told about spending in terms of deficit you are being lied to.

When you are only told about spending in terms of absolute dollars (leaving out deficit) you are being lied to.

If all this is true, the Trump administration has done a very poor job of communicating this.