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re: Hawaii Passes New Millionaire Tax Bracket to Close Budget Gap

Posted on 5/12/26 at 10:53 am to
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 10:53 am to
I've lived in Hawaii it's definitely not all that. The beaches in South Carolina make Waikiki look pitiful
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
16718 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:05 am to
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The wealth tax on California was a 5% tax on all assets for individuals worth over $1 billion. Not the same as Hawaii increased income tax for high earners.


So the Exodus from Hawaii will even be worse than from California.
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:06 am to
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Hawaii Passes New Millionaire Tax Bracket to Close Budget Gap


I’ve heard that it’s really expensive to live in Hawaii. Do they have inflated salaries like they do in Ca? If so, this could hit a bunch of people
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:11 am to
The next headline should be: "Hawaiian Millionaires Take Their Tax Revenue to Florida and Texas. Who could have ever foreseen this?!"
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
5391 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:31 am to
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And just like that, Hawaii loses it millionaires.

They will keep their houses there. They will just find a way to source their income to a red state. It isn't too difficult as long as you generally make sure you are not in Hawaii 183 days a particular year. Snowbirds have had this down to a science for decades.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
6609 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:33 am to
Florida economy getting ready to boom more.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
10007 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:42 am to
The Democrats want to portray themselves as Robinhood, but they are really communists by another name.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82395 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:46 am to

Did they ever get the neighborhood built back from the fire?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:00 pm to
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establishes a new 13% income tax bracket for households earning more than $1 million per year
Good!
Let the laboratory of ideas freely play out.
Someone's going to be surprised.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19987 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:15 pm to
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The wealth tax on California was a 5% tax on all assets for individuals worth over $1 billion. Not the same as Hawaii increased income tax for high earners.


I dont think people realize its on the "assets". For a normal person, if they taxed your assets, you would end up selling your home to pay the taxes on the equity you have in it. Its absurd.

In addition its retroactive to before the bill is even voted on, which would never pass the supreme court.

But these people have moved and they are taking their businesses as well and they aint coming back. Once you "threaten" its only a matter of time before you actually implement it.

This is what northern Virginia did to the farmers. Paid off a few good ole boys in a few counties on the board and they voted to deem farm land residental and tax the poor farmers forcing them to sell the land to pay the tax.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109283 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:18 pm to
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Oprah’s not going to like this


It's what she gets for burning down all of those homes.
Posted by ElCazador
Texas
Member since Aug 2019
107 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:20 pm to
Maybe not, from the perspective of confiscatory tax collectors, the income tax increase is a dumber avenue to take. Sure they might rope in folks with big W2 income, but most of the ultra wealthy and even 1099 folks probably have very little if any personal income. All of their income and expenses are routed through corporations, trusts, and stock/bonds. Very little of that is likely based in an idiotic blue state like Hawaii.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 12:21 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173763 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:21 pm to
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they were already paying 11%

So it's people making over a million a year paying 13% instead of 11% only on the income over 1 million?

I don't think this is going to cause the mass exodus that people expect. And on the flip side I don't see it generating much additional revenue either.
Posted by Rooski
Member since Dec 2024
127 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:24 pm to
FAFO you mean, lol.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37056 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:59 pm to
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Hell, Oprah lives in Maui and is worth 3.4 billion, just ask her for a billion, she probably be more than happy to contribute


Reminds me of the last Democrat National Convention.

We have Bernie...the multimillionaire on stage...ranting for 20 minutes about how billionaires should not exist to (I'm sure) massive applause.

Then, a few moments later....

"Let's welcome JB Pritzker!" and then "Let's welcome OPRAH WINFREY!!"

Again, massive applause.

Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37056 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:00 pm to
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I don't think a 2% tax increase (it was previously 11%) will compel Zuck and Ellison to move. They'll continue to find ways to limit their taxable income.


This is a tax on anyone making more than a million.

A 13% state income tax is WILD. If you're only making a million a year, that's an additional $20,000 in cash...POOF...and it only goes up from there.

ETA: For reference, the People's Republic of Illinois has a flat state income tax of ~5%.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 1:07 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63763 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:06 pm to
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This is a tax on anyone making more than a million.

A 13% state income tax is WILD. If you're only making a million a year, that's an additional $20,000 in cash...POOF...and it only goes up from there.


If you’re only making a million, you wouldn’t pay anything additional. You’d still pay the 11% on income over $750,000.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 1:07 pm
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
7584 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:08 pm to
How 'bout we pass a rich Politician Tax, where any scumbag politician with a million dollars or more should pay 50% to the IRS. You think the Demwits would go for that? I know, Nancy would be against it!
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51885 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:09 pm to
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Hell, Oprah lives in Maui and is worth 3.4 billion, just ask her for a billion, she probably be more than happy to contribute.
Oprah likely has amazing estate attorneys and financial analyst and accountants that gave her entire fortune in a trust and her "income" is what she gets loans for against the trust estate.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37056 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:10 pm to
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If you’re only making a million, you wouldn’t pay anything additional. You’d still pay the 11% on income over $750,000.


You're correct, I just looked it up, but looks like the bracket below it starts at $650k at least for a joint return.

The rates that these states are trying to "normalize" are nuts. "It's just 2%"...a few years later "it's just 1%"...a few years later "it's just 2% more"...
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