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re: Hawaii Passes New Millionaire Tax Bracket to Close Budget Gap

Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:11 pm to
Hawaii can probably get away with this better than other states because you are not getting the Hawaiian view anywhere else in the USA.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:13 pm to
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Oprah likely has amazing estate attorneys and financial analyst and accountants that gave her entire fortune in a trust and her "income" is what she gets loans for against the trust estate.


I've heard people talk about this tactic, but I'm not understanding how they pay these loans off then, if not with income from other means.

It sounds like trusts are taxed in Hawaii, so they wouldn't really be circumventing anything if they paid with distributions from the trust.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63785 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:16 pm to
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The rates that these states are trying to "normalize" are nuts. "It's just 2%"...a few years later "it's just 1%"...a few years later "it's just 2% more"...


Oh I don’t disagree at all. Even 11% seems egregious to me.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76516 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:19 pm to
A new bracket or a increase of the older tax rate?
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:24 pm to
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I don't think a 2% tax increase (it was previously 11%) will compel Zuck and Ellison to move. They'll continue to find ways to limit their taxable income.


Do y'all not understand how state income taxes work? Just because you have a vacation home in a state does not mean you pay state income taxes in that state.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16412 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:26 pm to
Anyone earning more than a mill /year should not declare Hawaii as their residence.
Those that do, don’t deserve to earn over $1mm a year

Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37071 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:26 pm to
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Just because you have a vacation home in a state does not mean you pay state income taxes in that state.


I decided to search, because I had a hunch, and well.....

quote:

Yes, Hawaii is actively increasing property taxes on second homes and luxury, non-owner-occupied properties in 2026. Counties are utilizing higher tax tiers for residential properties valued over $1 million to $2 million, specifically targeting investors, vacation homes, and luxury "ultra-wealthy" properties to fund local infrastructure and address housing shortages.
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
4273 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:45 pm to
Yes...and that is different from what the OP stated in raising the income tax for those earning over a million.

.....but this is on par for these people, they will tax the rich by any means necessary!
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19346 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:50 pm to
And Zuckerberg just got comfortable there
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:53 pm to
Yes but it actually fricks them over as well in the longer term. Prices go higher to accommodate new taxes and they take the hit directly
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5769 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:55 pm to
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And Zuckerberg just got comfortable there


Well he is a billionaire building a bunker...
Posted by BCvol
Member since Jan 2022
505 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 2:02 pm to
Puerto Rico about to gain a few millionaires
Posted by dek81572
Bossier City
Member since Apr 2012
1513 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 2:11 pm to
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her entire fortune in a trust and her "income" is what she gets loans for against the trust estate.


Yep, no tax on borrowed money
Posted by dek81572
Bossier City
Member since Apr 2012
1513 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 2:32 pm to
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I've heard people talk about this tactic, but I'm not understanding how they pay these loans off then, if not with income from other means.


I think this is how some of it works. The person has a business worth $100 million, they take no salary, they borrow $10 million and live off of that. The banks will sometimes give them long term loans that are interest only loans or is some cases they don't have to pay until the loan matures in 5 to 10 years. In that time, their business is now worth $200 million, they take out a $20 million loan, pay the first one off and now repeat the process. They do it with stocks, business that they own and real estate. Corporate McDonalds does this, they are not in the hamburger business, they are in the real estate business.
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