re: Guys...relax. We only seized 43 pounds of Fentanyl at the Canada border last year

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Why are liberals so stupid?

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But you don't understand. The 100,000 American lives lost each year due to fentantyl overdose are necessary to get more democratic voters. Open borders= more democrat voters. Sorry if you lost your son or daughter but we believe their sacrifice is necessary to give liberals control of our government.

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Liberals do not see the facts behind the emotional wall....

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I'm not a liberal. I try to see facts. I'm not emotionally invested in WHY President Trump is actually imposing a tariff on Canada.

My GUESS is that President Trump is imposing the tariff as leverage to improve our trade imbalance with Canada. To pretend he really is doing it to stem the flow of fentanyl from Canada seems incredibly naive.

What behavior is Trump trying to modify? Again, what action would you expect from the Canadian government to stop 43 pounds of ANYTHING from being seized at the US border?

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Ok now do 20 tons

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I don’t understand your point. If we are taking measures to try to prevent 10 million people dying we should take less measures to prevent 225,000 people dying?

We shut the fricking whole country and economy down to prevent the fricking flu which only presumably killed very old or sick people.

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You know there is also a large trade imbalance with Canada, and we provide for most of Canada’s defense right?

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ABSOLUTELY. That's my point. I think President Trump's ACTUAL reason is to address those issues. Why people have to pretend it has anything to do with fentanyl mystifies and amuses me.

I'm just a stickler for accuracy. In my meaningless opinion, I would prefer that President Trump state the actual reason for imposing the same amount of tariff on Canada as Mexico. It's obviously NOT because of fentanyl given the disparity in fentanyl coming in from Canada vs Mexico. Then again, I trust that President Trump has a reason for this approach.

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I don’t understand your point.

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Think about it

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If we are taking measures to try to prevent 10 million people dying we should take less measures to prevent 225,000 people dying?

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I think 104M is closer than 10M

It shows the absurdity of the argument, as 20 tons actually came from Mexico and nowhere near 104M people died. It's an argument based in emotional priming.

This is the same illogical reasoning LEOs use to inflate the value of drugs they seize.

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I don’t want it in this country even though it does cull the herd. Sometimes you have to save the bottom feeders from themselves. The only problem is they will go back to meth and heroin if fent is reduced

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It's not just meth and heroin addicts. A family member of a friend of mine OD'd from weed laced with fentanyl. He didn't do other drugs, just the casual weed smoker. Who knows if it was intentionally or accidentally laced.

I couldn't agree more that it is a red herring.

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It's just hard to believe that the relatively small amount of Fentanyl coming across the Canadian border

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relatively small amount? 10 million lethal doses.

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It shows the absurdity of the argument, as 20 tons actually came from Mexico and nowhere near 104M people died. It's an argument based in emotional priming.

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80k people a year die from Fentanyl directly as reported by the CDC. I’d argue that it is a lot higher than that. Not to mention the non deaths that wreck people’s lives and relatives lives.

We are putting tariffs for cooperation in helping the problem. Your point would be valid if we put tariffs on Canada but not Mexico.

Border security is only one issue for the tariffs. We are getting trade fricked by both these countries. It’s part of the larger picture.