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Give teachers a raise....Nah.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:41 pm
I think they are paid pretty well for what they do. They get off at 3pm. They have long holidays off and the whole summer! They chose that career. Quit crying about this. They have great benefits too.
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:46 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
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They get off at 3pm.
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:48 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
Give them performance based pay Fire as necessary
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:49 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
Are you talking about Biden saying that we should give the teachers a raise? I didn’t think the federal government paid the teachers anyway. I think he was just pandering to his ignorant base.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:51 pm to tigersbh
He is. If we did everything he promised in sotu we would be over 100 trillion in debt in less than a year.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:52 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
Teachers grade papers, make lesson plans, pull bus duty, prepare tests, grade tests, all after hours. I have no problem with them making more. I just don’t want federal strings attached.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:53 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
They don’t get off at 3. They do get great benefits. I’m okay with them being paid well if they do their job well. They can have a big impact on our future. Most of us have a teacher that influenced us greatly.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:57 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
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Give teachers a raise....Nah.
1. You're just trying to stir the pot with this one.
2. However, that doesn't mean you're wrong. You're not.
3. Assuming we're talking about public school teachers here, we're talking about government workers. Anybody takes a government job, they do so for job security, holidays, and benefits, and teachers make out superbly on all three of those metrics. No one ever takes a (non-elected) government job to get rich, or even to make top dollar. Making less money but getting more in terms of time off and benefits is part of the trade-off and everyone should know that going in.
4. Public school teaching is a part time job. What do they get, like 16 weeks off during the year? Something like that. Who else that's considered full time gets that kind of time off?
And research has shown that they are no more likely to take work home than their middle management private sector counterparts, nor are they required to do more in the way of seminars or other trainings (contrary to what they all will claim.)
So you're not wrong. But you're still pot stirring.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:58 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
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I think they are paid pretty well for what they do
Teachers get paid shite. I won't make the argument that they deserve anything more, but they do get paid pretty terribly in most parts of the country. As far as what they do, they are stretched really thin. I can't fathom why anyone would want to be a teacher.
- More and more students forced into larger class sizes. Teaching 30,40 + kids at once is absurd for most topics.
- Parents are increasingly a fricking nightmare.
- Students are increasingly a fricking nightmare.
- Students who never pass a single class just coast through the system so you have high schoolers operating at a grade school level fricking up class for everyone else.
- Illegals being dumped into classrooms who speak no English and have never been in school before fricking up class for everyone.
- Absurd amount of bureaucracy they are forced to navigate in their jobs.
If teaching was like it was 40-50 years ago, it's fair pay. Now they're getting shafted, but since the good people are leaving and blue haired nutjobs are taking the spotlight people have no sympathy for what the group as a whole goes through.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:58 pm to Lynxrufus2012
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Teachers grade papers, make lesson plans, pull bus duty, prepare tests, grade tests, all after hours.
Not according to the research.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:06 pm to Thundercles
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- More and more students forced into larger class sizes. Teaching 30,40 + kids at once is absurd for most topics.
- Parents are increasingly a fricking nightmare.
- Students are increasingly a fricking nightmare.
- Students who never pass a single class just coast through the system so you have high schoolers operating at a grade school level fricking up class for everyone else.
Oh, I wouldn't want to be a teacher either because of the things you listed, but the working conditions are a separate issue IMO.
Here's why: How much would you estimate would be "worth it" to deal with the things you listed?
Personally, anything with fewer than six zeros (not six figures, six ZEROS) would be too little for me.
You might have a different number, but I'll bet it will have one important thing in common with mine: I'll bet it wouldn't be at all feasible to apply across the board.
So what that tells me is that working conditions need to be fixed rather than salaries raised to make it "worth it" to put up with the working conditions.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:07 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
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They have great benefits too.
Greatest benefits of any profession out there.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:09 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
I've said this several times, but I am totally against any teacher salary increases until they ditch their public sector union.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:12 pm to Demonbengal
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He is. If we did everything he promised in sotu we would be over 100 trillion in debt in less than a year.
That wasn't a traditional SOTU, that was a blueprint and promise to economically and financially destroy the US.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:14 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
The fact that the number of students pursuing a degree in education is rapidly declining tells me their compensation isn’t enough. I’m a big believer in free market economics.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:19 pm to Auburn80
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They can have a big impact on our future.
Or, parents?
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:21 pm to auwaterfowler
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The fact that the number of students pursuing a degree in education is rapidly declining tells me their compensation isn’t enough.
It tells me that universal compulsory federally controlled education is close to reaching it's logical conclusion (chaotic breakdown) and needs to be scrapped.
See, I'm an even bigger believer in free market economics.
And how someone could possibly think that a program as socialist as mass, government controlled and forced education could successfully follow free market principles indefinitely is a bit of a puzzle to me.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:22 pm to LemmyLives
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Or, parents?
Dude, that's so 20th century.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:25 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
4carens thinks they should make more than professional football players
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:29 pm to wackatimesthree
I’m down with what you’re selling
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