re: Give teachers a raise....Nah.

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I think they are paid pretty well for what they do. They get off at 3pm. They have long holidays off and the whole summer! They chose that career. Quit crying about this. They have great benefits too.

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You sir are a fricking idiot! Love when people talk about teachers as if their job is easy! Until you have walked a mile in their shoes, shut the frick up!

I have been teaching for 12 years and every year the job has gotten harder and harder. This is why no one is going in the the profession anymore. There is a national teaching shortages and as more and more teachers quit for retire, the gap gets larger and larger. No one wants to go get a four year degree to deal with the bull shite we deal with on a daily bases. The long hours, paper work and BS from undisciplined kids are too much for many people to handle. Parents blame the teachers now days for everything little Johnny does wrong, rather than making their punk arse kid own up to the things the kid did wrong. Or, at the least admitting they are shity parents.

I coach football and I can tell you that I have never gotten off at 3pm! For all of the time I spend at practices in the fall, spring and summer, the games, travel time etc. I make about 26 cents an hour with the little stipend we get for coaching.

Kids now days are downright disrespectful and their parents allow it. Ever year we get a new curriculum to use that basically tells us that we don't know what we are doing and that we need to change our methods yet again. teachers are ridiculed everyday and watched like hawks from the administration. No other profession is watched " to make sure we are doing our job right " than teachers.

I am working on my master in educational leadership so that I can get our of the classroom because I am tired of being told that the way I teach is wrong, even though I have the highest grades in the district for my subject. One day there wont be enough teachers because of all of the BS we constantly deal with from people like you who are completely disconnected from what is going on.

I challenge you to be a substitute teacher for one week. If it so easy, then you should be able to handle it with flying colors. Before you shite on teachers, you need to walk a mile in our shoes.

I am in my classroom teaching/planning for over 40 hours each week. This doesn’t count time before and after school tutoring, sponsoring clubs, working sporting events (no extra pay). I teach Chemistry and Physics so on lab days I have to go in early to prepare the lab.

Throw in the hours spent grading/planning at home and on worthless, but mandatory professional development - on average, I’m spending over 50 hours each week to educate and support your kids, which I completely enjoy (except the PD).

I’m not complaining- I love my job and I never complain about my salary because I knew it would suck going in. I’m just correcting the OP’s claim about our work hours.

The Missouri Retirement system is really good and the pension is pretty amazing really. After 30 years, a teacher makes as much in retirement as they did teaching.

Yep. Those public sector unions are criminal. They negotiate against taxpayers and use taxpayers' children as a bargaining chip.

They unions don't give a damn about the students and never have.

And these unions don't just stop at trying to bleed taxpayers fir every penny, these unions are actively pushing an agenda of indoctrination.

Ditch the unions and I'll be for it. But as it stands now, I ACTIVELY campaign against any teacher related issues just because of their bullsgit public sector union.

I could care less about the public school systems. I pay my taxes but my kids, grandkids will never go to the shithole public schools.

Ive been in education in OK for over 20 years. We arent payed great, but i make it. Teaching and coaching is a calling. I sure as hell dont do it for the money. I had a chance right out of college to make 15k more than im making now but turned it down. I cant see myself doing anything else.

Ive coached multiple sports over the years so the whole going home at 330 thing is hilarious. I will get home from a baseball game tonight at 11:00.

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That can largely be overcome if parents were involved with their kids being educated. Everything we see wrong with the students starts at home and what is allowed to take hold there. I saw a commercial yesterday that said 2/3 of 4th graders aren’t able to read at grade level. That’s a reflection on society if you ask me. We just aren’t prioritizing important things.

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I'm completely with you that more parents need to be inolved, but even if every parent were super involved in their child's education, there is still a limit of how many kids one teacher can reasonably control in a classroom, especially in the younger grades.

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Yep. Those public sector unions are criminal. They negotiate against taxpayers and use taxpayers' children as a bargaining chip.

They unions don't give a damn about the students and never have.

And these unions don't just stop at trying to bleed taxpayers fir every penny, these unions are actively pushing an agenda of indoctrination.

Ditch the unions and I'll be for it. But as it stands now, I ACTIVELY campaign against any teacher related issues just because of their bullsgit public sector union.

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At this point, in most of Louisiana, the teacher unions really no longer have any serious say in things.

In EBR they are still pretty powerful, but not really in the rest of the state.

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Get a STEM or business degree, then do a quick teacher certification program if you want to teach. If you decide teaching is not for you, you've got a much more marketable degree to fall back on

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From what I have seen, most people who go alt cert are out of teaching in 5 years, if not sooner.

The only people who seem to survive that track are the ones that really thought about education as a degree, but for some other reason were talked out of it.

I had a friend like that. Should have been a teacher all along. Got a business degree because the teachers in his family told him to stay out of education. Went back and got alt cert a few years later. Dude is an amazing math teacher. Few years later went and got his masters and is now in administration.

But by and large, the alt cert programs don't teach you enough about running a classroom, dealing with students and parents, admin BS, etc, so people get frustrated and wash out.

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While true, if you think the only reason for that is that the ones who don't know anything had bad teachers, no offense, but you don't know what you're taking about.

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Of course it’s not the only reason. But parents have full time jobs. Teachers teach kids things. Public school teachers are passing some of these kids with the bare minimum. Their job is to teach the kids. If the kids don’t know shite, there’s a problem. And all of it isn’t on the parents or even most of it. Not even close.