re: Give teachers a raise....Nah.

Joe is simply pandering to Dem voting blocks. This time it’s the teachers unions.

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They get off at 3pm.

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Damn. I guess my wife is seeing a Jody since she gets there at 645am and leaves around 530pm every day.

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I guess my wife is seeing a Jody since she gets there at 645am and leaves around 530pm every day.

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Is she coaching a sport?

I will never understand teachers who put in that many hours. Maybe because I’m a high school teacher, but I get there at the latest and leave the earliest. Only work my “billable” hours.

And tenured teachers who choose to coach can’t complain about their hours.

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What other white collar profession has to settle for $50k with no opportunities for a raise no matter how good they are at their job?

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Lots of government workers. Only they don't get 16 weeks off every year.

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I know where the problem is. It's always mostly the parents.

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Yes and no.

Ultimately, yes.

But our educational system is a socialist program that is compulsory and universal.

Which means that it is guaranteed to produce one group of parents who are antagonistic toward the system and another (larger) group who conclude that they have no responsibility to participate in their child's education when the government has devoted a $900 Billion dollar a year industry to it, has pretty much complete control over it, and forced everyone to send their children to it.

The system is guaranteed to produce those parents.

Not that everyone on this thread considers themselves to be conservatives, but it always blows my mind how many "conservatives"—the same people who pee their pants at the mere mention of socializing medicine—seem to not notice that our system of education is completely, 100% socialized.

And it will go the way of all socialism experiments. It will implode and fall apart.

Putting prayer back in school won't save it.

Paying teachers more money won't save it.

Paddling students won't save it.

School choice won't save it.

Paying some teachers more than others won't save it.

NOTHING will save it in its current form.

It is progressing exactly as you would expect any socialist experiment to progress and will keep doing so until it deteriorates to the point that it can no longer function.

It honestly baffles me that people don't see that. The only explanation I have for the blindness is that it's been around for longer than any of us have been alive, so we take it for granted. Don't take it for granted and just assume that it will and should continue to exist.

Pull back and start evaluating it objectively and you will see that taking our diverse society and forcing EVERYONE to participate in a program like this regardless of ability to do so or desire to do so is doomed to failure.

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They need to pay the good ones more and fire the shitty ones.

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It's a government job. That's not ever going to happen.

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It’s insane how much kids don’t know.

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While true, if you think the only reason for that is that the ones who don't know anything had bad teachers, no offense, but you don't know what you're taking about.

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They need to pay the good ones more and fire the shitty ones. There are a LOT of shitty ones. It’s insane how much kids don’t know.

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We’re through the looking glass on this. It’s time for conservatives to abandon public education on a wide scale.

It’s not currently fixable.

Teachers get physically assaulted regularly. The child is back in the classroom within minutes, or in a best case scenario, a few days.

Our system is held hostage by lawyers and the National Dept of Education.

The current school day and system is obsolete. It doesnt serve the children, it doesn't serve the parents, nor does it serve the teachers though they are the largest barrier to implementing real change.
 
I would advocate for giving teachers a sizable raise (something like 20-30%) if we changed to a year round model and added an extra 1 hour to the school day that starts a half hour later. The extra time would be utilized by both the teachers and student to remove some of the rushed feeling of the day and year. This allows for better teaching in class while not bringing work home both for students and teachers.

A good book on the subject is "Time to Learn" by Christopher Gabrieli and Warren Goldstein.

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They get off at 3pm. They have long holidays off and the whole summer! They chose that career. Quit crying about this. They have great benefits too.

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The Readable App put your writing grade level at 1.4 with only one grammatical error. Is that ironic?

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The current school day and system is obsolete. It doesnt serve the children, it doesn't serve the parents, nor does it serve the teachers though they are the largest barrier to implementing real change.

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A lot of the entire school scheduling problem is tied to scheduling sports practices.

We would likely be better served by ditching high school sports and letting club teams completely take over sports.