re: Give teachers a raise....Nah.

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Give them performance based pay Fire as necessary

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What a great idea....Now let every teacher teach upper and upper middle income kids from two parent households.

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teach upper and upper middle income kids

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That's every teacher's excuse as long as I've been alive. You know where a 12 year old girl would ask to slob my knob, in front of the class? Not in a Department of Defense school overeeas, where you were barely clearing civilian pay. Baton Rouge. But it happens when you have crappy parents. TikTok and iPad all day, and your kid is an idiot. Shocked.

Department of Defense funding for overseas schools what 30-50% of what it was at domestic schools. Yet more of the kids went to college, because the parents were involved. Enlisted, Officer, it didn't matter.

You also have plenty of rich parents that aren't involved these days, and where I live, it's largely Indian parents, oddly enough. I know why, but I won't state it here, yet.

While you're digging your grave, tell us exactly what "upper" and "Upper middle" income means.

I do love how you outed yourself with "two parent households." Well, no kidding.

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because the parents were involved. Enlisted, Officer, it didn't matter.

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Everyone always say this, but what's the solution?? We've been holding out for sweeping cultural change a few decades now and I'm a little skeptical. It just seems too high and dramatic to be a realistic option

At some point you have to stop expecting lemons to make turnip soup...

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BS. Where today do teachers have 30-40 students in a class?

I’ll wait for your response.

When I was in school, 30-35 was the norm for all classes.

Today it’s 15-25 max. Everywhere.

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This is false. It is compeltely untrue and demonstrates proof you have no fricking clue. I have taught so many classes of greater than 25 students and that was in Oxford, MS which is one of the best school districts in our state. And in my eight years, I recall one class of less than 15 students. Where did you pull this number from as some sort of imaginary max, everywhere?

Process standards, which every state has, dictates class size. Most allow larger classes as the grade level increases. In MS, which is not much different than the national standard - 22:1 in K, 27:1 grades 1-4, 30:1 in grades 5-8, and 33:1 in upper core classes. Teachers are maxed at 150 students per semester which was always my threshold teaching six classes. This is exempt only for A level schools which can be exempt and increase this number.

Take out the Delta and you would have scores equal to Ohio. Are you speaking in absolutes based on just your school that you teach or is this state law? What do your process standards allow? Is it the same at the inner city and poor schools as well?

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Yeah exactly how much indoctrination goes on in a physical science classroom, pray tell?

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Depends on the Teacher.

Leftist "Educators" have been shoe-horning their dangerous, evil world-views into every nook and cranny possible, regardless of how outright stupid it looks to normal people with functioning brains.

Feel free to Google "Math is racist".