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re: Geraldo on Fox just stated that Trump Admin plans to file complaints with The DOJ & IG

Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:46 pm to
Posted by Ebbandflow
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Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:50 pm to
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Do you honestly think a lawyer that's 

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been a high level lawyer for 30 years.



would know what obstruction of justice is? especially if the obstruction happened to him personally? 
Of course he knows. But it's not up to him to decide anything about obstruction of justice. Ask BBonds.
Posted by Ebbandflow
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:50 pm to
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In a conversation with the POTUS, you tard


So what. It wasnt privileged indo nor classified. We dont have an emperor. Also, Trump has leaked worse. Glass houses.
Posted by DownHome
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:51 pm to
The responanses in this thread blow my mind from both sides. The one thing all forget if you watched the testimony live or the transcripts, is he wrote the memo on a classified computer in the FBI vehicle when he left the dinner. That right there is grounds for prosecution being that made it a classified document when he done it and then released it to the press. There are a few instances in his testomony he really contridicts himself and you could say perjury or incompetent. Maybe the phrase nut job is bigger than most want to believe.
Posted by Themole
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:52 pm to
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SO MUCH WINNING MY frickING HEAD HURTS.

That deserved all caps.



Step outside and shout it from the rooftop. Hell fire off a couple of rounds.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:52 pm to
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he wrote the memo on a classified computer in the FBI vehicle when he left the dinner
Wrong memo
Posted by Sidicous
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:52 pm to
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Trump also released memos.



1. Trump doesn't take memos

2. Trump is POTUS. Guess that means something.




This conversation has already been had in the case of what POTUS shared at the meeting with the Russians just before the overseas trip. The meeting in the WH where the MSM was freaking out at being shut out while a Russian journalist was allowed.

The end result: POTUS is the ultimate authority on what is/not classified and when/if anything can be released.

Earlier in election cycle had the discussion regarding Hitlery's email server about when the designations occur. Result: at any time before, during, and even after release to authorized personnel, stuff can be deemed classified. That makes it really sticky as today it may be OK to share "doc A", but 2 weeks later, ooops, shoulda been marked as classified so now "doc A" is out there and anyone holding it is in violation of law.(meaning burn or shred NOW!)
Posted by blackjackjackson
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:53 pm to
wow, thank gawd for geraldo!

i gotta bookmark this. Orange goes on offense.

this will work real good!

Posted by Cali 4 LSU
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:53 pm to
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The head of the FBI.


The head of the FBI or private citizen?
Posted by rickyh
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:54 pm to
Posted by Themole
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:55 pm to
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Comey wasn't a government worker when he shared his notes


He made those fricking notes on government time and government equipment.
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:57 pm to
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But it's not up to him to decide anything about obstruction of justice.


Then why did he take memos on Trump? Clearly he felt something was wrong...he took memos of the meetings. Being an experienced lawyer of 30 years, can he not look at the facts and determine whether something is illegal or not!? He was the DIRECTOR of the FBI for God's sake!
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:58 pm to
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In a conversation with the POTUS, you tard


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So what. It wasnt privileged indo nor classified.


Isn't that where "executive privilege" falls?
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 11:59 pm
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 12:02 am to
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That makes it really sticky as today it may be OK to share "doc A", but 2 weeks later, ooops, shoulda been marked as classified so now "doc A" is out there and anyone holding it is in violation of law.(meaning burn or shred NOW!)


That's harsh.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 12:07 am to
Executive privilege is what you try to invoke in order to not have to do something, such as answer subpoenas or submit documents. It doesn't usually apply to people talking about you, and would be especially tough to get a judge to shut someone down after you've tweeted and granted interviews about the same subjects. As I read, it's a shield, not a sword.
Posted by Sidicous
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 12:10 am to
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That makes it really sticky as today it may be OK to share "doc A", but 2 weeks later, ooops, shoulda been marked as classified so now "doc A" is out there and anyone holding it is in violation of law.(meaning burn or shred NOW!)



That's harsh.


Well, it happens when there are huge bureaucracies with multiple agendas.

Like for example some Russian Veterinarian having a bestiality vid of a US Senator while visiting Russia.

FBI gets word, writes it up, decides since out of country activity not their jurisdiction, not classified. Done. Memo off to storage.

At storage someone notifies CIA, who sees the vet is Boris Yeltsin's grandson so is connected to Russian govt, raises concerns doubly (not just damaging to Senator but now with Russian Govt. possibly involved open to blackmail/control). Changes designation to Special Access Program (SAP, or, the highest designation since could affect serious US Govt. activities).

ETA could be 2-3 weeks/months between the FBI (unclassified) and the CIA (SAP) so video could be posted to youtube in that time as unclassified. Pretty tough to put that genie back in the bottle.
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 12:14 am
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 12:15 am to
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Step outside and shout it from the rooftop. Hell fire off a couple of rounds.


I feel like I need to shotgun a beer and blast Led Zeppelin.
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 12:17 am
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 12:18 am to
We can't know if that's all that was leaked until we investigate? Right? You going to stay consistent?
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 12:19 am to
The fact we are even having this conversation is a black mark on his credibility. Right? You going to stay consistent?
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 12:20 am to
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It doesn't usually apply to people talking about you,


Then why was everyone asking about whether Trump would stop Comey testimony by invoking executive privilege? I thought he still had it & could've used it in this case.
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