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re: Geraldo on Fox just stated that Trump Admin plans to file complaints with The DOJ & IG

Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:58 pm to
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:58 pm to
Him and Clapper have been leaking like crazy. I have been saying it. This could get interesting.
Posted by nateslu1
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:59 pm to
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What's illegal about leaking his own unclassified notes?


If you don't know baw then just stay stupid
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
20202 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:02 pm to
I'll just leave this right here for y'all to chew on

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Comey previously spoke out strongly against leaks to the media, as we previously noted. The original post from May 17 follows:

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“I've spent most of my career trying to figure out unauthorized disclosures and where they came from,” Comey said in congressional testimony March 20. “It's very, very hard.”

In that same hearing, before the House Intelligence Committee, Comey spoke at length about his disdain for leaks. He said that “any unauthorized disclosure of classified conversations or documents is potentially a violation of law and a serious, serious problem.”

He said that “a lot” of information leaked to the media “is just dead wrong.”

He also seemed to endorse the view that Trump has been hit by more leaks than his predecessors and even flirted with support for the president's claim that reporters make things up, when he said this: “It does strike me there's been a lot of people talking — or, at least, reporters saying people are talking to them — in ways that have struck me as unusually active.”

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These are words that could come back to haunt Comey — especially the words that were designed to cast doubt on the veracity of news reports based on leaks. If Comey were to attempt to hurt Trump by leaking information, his effort could only be effective if people were to trust the ensuing press coverage. Comey has told the public — quite recently — that reports based on leaks should be eyed skeptically.

Comey testified again May 3, before the Senate Judiciary Committee, and had this exchange with Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa):

GRASSLEY: Director Comey, have you ever been an anonymous source in news reports about matters relating to the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation?
COMEY: Never.

GRASSLEY: Question two, relatively related, have you ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation?

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Comey's testimony in March suggested that he has not softened in the past 12 years. “I do think it should be investigated aggressively,” he said of leaks, “and, if possible, prosecuted so people take as a lesson, this is not okay. This behavior can be deterred, and it's deterred by locking some people up who have engaged in criminal activity.”

WaPoo
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 11:04 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:03 pm to
LINK
Here's an article saying he didn't break any laws. He went out of his way not to, and knew what he was doing. He's been a high level lawyer for 30 years.

I'm sure we'll never hear the end of arguments otherwise, though.
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 11:04 pm
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14448 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:03 pm to
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Nothing. Washington Whistleblower Protection Act protects him. Trumpkins have a right to be furious about leaks, but freaking out over this one is laughable


Not very bright are ya?
Posted by PanhandleTigah
Florida Freedom Zone
Member since May 2008
9405 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:04 pm to
They're not his. Those documents belong to the federal government. They were written while performing duties as FBI Director.
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
GEAUX TIGERS!
Member since Sep 2007
6507 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:04 pm to
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What's illegal about leaking his own unclassified notes?


First, I think they are implying that he needs to be asked & account for if he has ever leaked anything before because if he admitted to leaking something (illegal or not) then maybe, just maybe, he has done it before. Especially in an FBI that was leaking like a sieve.

Second, I've seen some prosecutors (not just any run-of-mill lawyer, but those that specialize in this) state on news reports that Comey's memos were not personal or his own. Not to mention he discussed confidential conversations with POTUS. John Turley, Kimberly Guilfolye, etc
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19807 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:05 pm to
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If sharing notes you made while a gov worker was illegal how do so many politicians publish books taking about their time in office?

I honestly have no idea about the applicable laws but it doesn't like this is true


Just because something is a record doesn't mean it can't be discussed or released to the public. There is a process that determines how records are coded, then based on coding, they know how long they are retained and, if necessary, at what security clearance.
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
GEAUX TIGERS!
Member since Sep 2007
6507 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:07 pm to
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Comey wasn't a government worker when he shared his notes


Comey was a government worker when he made his notes though. Not just any worker, a VERY privileged worker.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4396 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:08 pm to
I don't think anyone is claiming that Trump telling Comey to drop the Flynn investigation is classified information
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4396 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:10 pm to
Thanks for the link. This thread never passed the smell test.

I'm sure it'll be forgotten in a day or two though
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
GEAUX TIGERS!
Member since Sep 2007
6507 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:11 pm to
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Washington Whistleblower Protection Act protects him


He wasn't whistleblowing. He was trying to control a narrative and also get a special prosecutor appointed.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14448 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:11 pm to
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Comey wasn't a government worker when he shared his notes


Lol, what?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35374 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:11 pm to
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I'm sure we'll never hear the end of arguments otherwise, thoug
I wish there were more high level Dems and Independents who would get the facts and defend Comey publicly. The one thing that Trump has is an army of mindless red hats who will do his bidding even though they know it is a lie.
Posted by Circus Child
Loc
Member since Aug 2003
3682 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:13 pm to
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I wish there were more high level Dems and Independents who would get the facts and defend Comey publicly.


didn't they all want him fired last year?
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14448 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:14 pm to
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19807 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:14 pm to
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I don't think anyone is claiming that Trump telling Comey to drop the Flynn investigation is classified information


This is getting into muddy water, Comey as FBI director certainly had some discretion to make that determination. However, as a private citizen, it was no longer up to Comey to determine if those documents could be released to the public. Also, notice, he didn't release the documents. He described them to a 3rd party that took it to the press. He was certainly running a very thin line.
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
GEAUX TIGERS!
Member since Sep 2007
6507 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:14 pm to
Update (already added to OP):

ETA: The senate intel committee & the IG at the DOJ will receive the complaint from the legal team at the WH. The complaint is that Comey leaked work related info without permission which applies to classified AND non-classified info. Damn..
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6932 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:16 pm to
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He made the notes on an FBI computer and it was "executive privileged info"


It wasn't privileged info.

What's the law that defines the criteria of something being privileged info?
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
16997 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:16 pm to
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Comey wasn't a government worker when he shared his notes



True, but the notes were government property, so it doesn't matter.
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