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re: Geraldo on Fox just stated that Trump Admin plans to file complaints with The DOJ & IG
Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:31 am to Cali 4 LSU
Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:31 am to Cali 4 LSU
Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:31 am to Tiger Lake
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ANY memo he took while at the FBI was and still is a government document!
This is my layman's understanding of the issue.
IF Comey had penned the memo based on his current memory of the conversation that took place months ago, that would be his personal memorandum. But since it was a contemporaneous account meant to provide evidentiary substance for his official conduct and understandings, that is an FBI product and is not his to delete, edit, disseminate, or exploit for personal reasons.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:33 am to SDVTiger
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Wtf
Nobody expects you to understand political reality, so this makes sense
Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:33 am to ChineseBandit58
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This is the gaping wet head wound that was unveiled for the nation yesterday.
There WAS collusion to interfere with a fair election. It was the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION trying to cover up numerous felonies by the SecState.
and COLLUDING with the HRC campaign to soften the realities before the nation
Exactly. We also now know that the DNC server that was hacked was never actually obtained by the FBI. It was "examined by a third party," which shared it's findings with the FBI. This is a huge WTF. Why wouldn't the FBI obtain the evidence itself? They were told not to and for a reason.
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 8:50 am
Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:34 am to ChineseBandit58
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IF Comey had penned the memo based on his current memory of the conversation that took place months ago, that would be his personal memorandum. But since it was a contemporaneous account meant to provide evidentiary substance for his official conduct and understandings, that is an FBI product and is not his to delete, edit, disseminate, or exploit for personal reasons.
Essentially correct, though of course things like classification and such still apply. You can't years after leaving public life write a memoir detailing accounts of classified material and say "oh well that's just my personal memoir" for example.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:34 am to Pettifogger
go back to pretending you are a lawyer
Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:35 am to Pettifogger
You went from being a decent poster to being almost as pathetic as the libs on here. I'm disappointed.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:37 am to SDVTiger
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go back to pretending you are a lawyer
man you're savage
Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:38 am to LSU Patrick
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You went from being a decent poster to being almost as pathetic as the libs on here. I'm disappointed.
I've made it abundantly clear that the opinions of people who treat Trump like their favorite sports team don't interest me. Particularly the really dumb ones (more SDV than you).
I'm not sure why you think this ploy is going to have an impact.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:39 am to Pettifogger
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God this administration is stupid
"Let's keep Comey in the news with a futile attempt at revenge!"
You like to tell us about reality. You really think this was going away? You really think the media was going to drop this? This Comey/russia/investigation thing will be milked until midterms. They might want to fight it. Of course you think it is a futile attempt.
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 8:40 am
Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:40 am to Pettifogger
No one takes you seriously so keep on melting
You are reaching juiceterry levels of stupid
You are reaching juiceterry levels of stupid
Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:42 am to Pettifogger
I don't perceive it as a ploy. I think this is about draining the swamp. This witch hunt against Trump is revealing a lot about the prior administration and the current DNC/Establishment. The media is being fully exposed as a result of all of this. DC and the media are used to being able to bully any opposition into submission. Thank god that isn't happening right now.
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 8:43 am
Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:52 am to Circus Child
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You like to tell us about reality. You really think this was going away? You really think the media was going to drop this? This Comey/russia/investigation thing will be milked until midterms. They might want to fight it. Of course you think it is a futile attempt.
In the end, Trump doesn't care about the things we care about. I think he's more with us than against us, but he used your passion to get elected - it wasn't his passion. If he thinks the people who put him here are tired of his media war shite (which he is certainly not solely responsible for but which he absolutely contributes to), I think you'd see him at least temporarily put his focus back on things that matter.
My concern is that he got elected by people who wanted to fight the left. No matter how stupid, no matter how futile, they care about the fight more than the result. I voted for Trump to get Scalia's seat filled, so I don't have high expectations beyond that. But if people want immigration reform, if they want tax rewrite, if they want ACA changes, etc. - I do not see what he's doing to be in their best interest.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:55 am to LSU Patrick
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he media is being fully exposed as a result of all of this.
Are they? To me and you, yes, I see the bias too. But half the country celebrates WaPo, while the other half is driven to shite like Breitbart.
I'm not going to pretend that what we need is to all be nice to one another and things will work themselves out. But I question that the "house cleaning" you're talking about is actually happening. People are only becoming more polarized.
I understand the urge. IRL, where I deal with far more anti-Trump loons than you pro-Trump loons, I'm driven to defend the President on stuff I personally find absurd. But you seem to imply that something good is happening, and other than some select items resulting from Hillary avoidance - I don't really see them.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:58 am to Pettifogger
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Are they? To me and you, yes, I see the bias too. But half the country celebrates WaPo, while the other half is driven to shite like Breitbart.
I'm not saying that there aren't still a bunch of ignorant and brainwashed folks out there who will never see it. However, the ones who pay attention and were deluded by the past attempts by the DNC to hide it's actual agenda and by the media's attempts to portray itself as unbiased now see things for how they really are. I know several old school democrats who are done with the party. They aren't trump supporters, but they are completely turned off by today's democrat party as well as the leftist media.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 9:02 am to LSU Patrick
I think you're at least partially right. I think there is distrust of the media, which is largely earned.
But that leaves us where? Where are we supposed to go to find truth? I mean, you and I may be able to read 8 publications and reach a conclusion, but even for those who see Trump's antics as a means to an end, I feel like the "end" still leaves us in a place of total shite.
In short, I think rallying to this President, who I think is unfairly treated but at the same time a ridiculous, dishonest and childish human being, just creates an either/or proposition with both options being "lies and propaganda tainted toward your belief system."
God I sound like Tx Tiger
But that leaves us where? Where are we supposed to go to find truth? I mean, you and I may be able to read 8 publications and reach a conclusion, but even for those who see Trump's antics as a means to an end, I feel like the "end" still leaves us in a place of total shite.
In short, I think rallying to this President, who I think is unfairly treated but at the same time a ridiculous, dishonest and childish human being, just creates an either/or proposition with both options being "lies and propaganda tainted toward your belief system."
God I sound like Tx Tiger
Posted on 6/9/17 at 9:41 am to Pettifogger
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My concern is that he got elected by people who wanted to fight the left. No matter how stupid, no matter how futile, they care about the fight more than the result. I voted for Trump to get Scalia's seat filled, so I don't have high expectations beyond that. But if people want immigration reform, if they want tax rewrite, if they want ACA changes, etc. - I do not see what he's doing to be in their best interest.
He got elected by all sorts of people. I would like to see tax breaks for small businesses and individuals. Also want to see if we can stop my healthcare premiums from going up 40% every year. Some of this is not all on Trump. What is the GOP doing about taxes? Put something forward. Start discussing things in public. do something. My hope is that they will but its not just Trump holding up the agenda.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 10:01 am to Pettifogger
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In short, I think rallying to this President, who I think is unfairly treated but at the same time a ridiculous, dishonest and childish human being, just creates an either/or proposition with both options being "lies and propaganda tainted toward your belief system."
Perhaps. The big difference that I see is that the gig is up. The left thought it had 60-70 of the country fooled and brainwashed. The progressives have been playing the long con for decades. They thought that had successfully moved the country into a position where they could go full on socialist and everyone would either cheer it on or cower. They were wrong. Thus, the huge lib melt, the pathetic desperation by the democrats, and the fear of the establishment. None of this actually solves the problems, but it creates an environment where paths for fixing some things are possible.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:26 am to mmcgrath
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How is it a "leak" when he is sharing his side of the story?
Well, how's it not? I guess it depends on whether his memos were "his" or "property of the gov't".
Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:32 am to Pettifogger
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In the end, Trump doesn't care about the things we care about. I think he's more with us than against us, but he used your passion to get elected - it wasn't his passion. If he thinks the people who put him here are tired of his media war shite (which he is certainly not solely responsible for but which he absolutely contributes to), I think you'd see him at least temporarily put his focus back on things that matter.
My concern is that he got elected by people who wanted to fight the left. No matter how stupid, no matter how futile, they care about the fight more than the result. I voted for Trump to get Scalia's seat filled, so I don't have high expectations beyond that. But if people want immigration reform, if they want tax rewrite, if they want ACA changes, etc. - I do not see what he's doing to be in their best interest.
At this point it isn't fair to judge what Trump does or does not care about , because he hasn't had one single bit of breathing room since becoming POTUS, not one. It's been this Russia nonsense and other bullshite since day one. Now that idiot Pelosi wants to spend who the frick knows how much time and money investigating why Trump went to SA first? That is the kind of nonense that people are sick of.
I didn't vote for Trump the first time, if the election were held today, I would. You know why, because if nothing else he's exposing the bullshite of Washington DC. IT's fricking June of year 1 and so far all Congress has done is investigate Trump and take multiple vacations. What the frick ?
It's time, past time, for Republicans to stand up in Congress and just say "we're done here" there will be NO further investigations into Trump or his associates. Let's get on with real business, not this partisan nonsense.
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