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re: Gen Z and Millennials are burnt out, not from working hard, but because they lack hope
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:12 pm to SallysHuman
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:12 pm to SallysHuman
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climate change?
international conflicts?
Pussies if that's their excuse.
They were mostly raised by helicopter parents, which left them with jack shite for tools to deal with adversity, or take a long term view on the economy, etc. Anxious moms who can't let junior fail, and pussified dads that chant "happy wife, happy life," and just let it all happen, hoping they'll get laid this month did this.
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:12 pm to NC_Tigah
Lack of hope in general may be the problem, not just with work.
My hope is not in making a lot of money or an early retirement (or retirement at all), but in Jesus Christ and the glory I will enter into after this life.
If your goal is to live for today and have your best life now, I can see where being stuck in a stressful job might lead someone to lack hope.
My hope is not in making a lot of money or an early retirement (or retirement at all), but in Jesus Christ and the glory I will enter into after this life.
If your goal is to live for today and have your best life now, I can see where being stuck in a stressful job might lead someone to lack hope.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:16 pm to St Augustine
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Crazy thing is they could’ve written a more intellectually honest article simply discussing how so many thirty something’s who went to school because college was this thing relentlessly pushed , took out loans to pay for it, even got jobs making historically solid middle class money are simply getting squeezed.
It’s written by a liberal professor with 7 total years in the workforce . Which is actually alot compared other professors who have only been in schools their entire life
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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on the OT of course, not crazy land here
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Moskovitz, Zuckerberg, John & Patrick Collison, Austin Russell, Lucy Guo, Taylor Swift, and Daniela Amodei are neither "data points" nor irrelevant.
Random data points are irrelevant
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:17 pm to FooManChoo
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stuck in a stressful job
People are "stuck" in a stressful job because they and their families spend too much money. This is controllable. They're not stuck, they're living the reality of their choices. Nobody taught any of these kids to have agency. Whatever suck you experience, there's always something you could have done to mitigate it, it's not tariffs, the Chinese, the H1Bs, whatever "doing it to you."
Although companies that use Workday for hiring might actually qualify for "it being done to you" status.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:19 pm to NC_Tigah
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are neither "data points"
Sure they are. Their data is included in the charts I posted.
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nor irrelevant.
In the larger sea of data, yes, they are.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:21 pm to NC_Tigah
Cry me a river. Gen X had no hope. We made our hope
We grew up with the threat of being nuked at elementary school and had to do drills and sit with our heads under our desk Like that would have done anything if the nuke hit.
We grew up in cheap houses because everything in it was cheap. Wallpaper, linoleum floors and Formica counter tops.
These poor millennials and Gen Zers get no sympathy from me.
We grew up with the threat of being nuked at elementary school and had to do drills and sit with our heads under our desk Like that would have done anything if the nuke hit.
We grew up in cheap houses because everything in it was cheap. Wallpaper, linoleum floors and Formica counter tops.
These poor millennials and Gen Zers get no sympathy from me.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:23 pm to LemmyLives
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People are "stuck" in a stressful job because they and their families spend too much money.
They spend too much money because basic necessities are too high. frick housing, utilities, groceries, insurance and a $15k beater is out of fricking control.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
AI is about to make this shite much much worse.
On the all in summit, musk is claiming by next year they'll have a robot as dexterous as a human with access to all of the world's information and more intelligent than the most intelligent human on earth and the marginal cost to produce at 1 million units will be around $20k.
On the all in summit, musk is claiming by next year they'll have a robot as dexterous as a human with access to all of the world's information and more intelligent than the most intelligent human on earth and the marginal cost to produce at 1 million units will be around $20k.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:34 pm to Turbeauxdog
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This post was edited on 9/23/25 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:So here is a great example you've posted inadvertently..
Run those financial numbers vs 2 yrs of Community College followed by a university degree.
One has to se that opportunity matches means. You DO NOT attend Notre Dame to get a HS teaching cert at $70K/y and then bitch about student loan debt.
E.g., Baylor, Rice, Harvard, Princeton, and Yale were simply not remote financial considerations for me despite acceptance. Nowadays though, the temptation would be to say "screw the costs," I'm going into massive debt to attend Princeton.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:38 pm to NC_Tigah
I just read this article. It also mentions that millennials are a sandwich generation, caring for both children and aging parents. This was probably discussed already.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:40 pm to Turbeauxdog
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AI is about to make this shite much much worse.
Most likely
That's why a few years ago I specifically pivoted to areas that deal with more direct client interactions. AI cant solve those problems.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:You are WAY WAY better than that.
Very similar.
Come on SFP!
The GR and Covid were far more comparable to the Volker and Dotcom recessions than to the early 20th century period you are stupidly drawing equation with.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:42 pm to NC_Tigah
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climate change, political instability, ongoing effects of the COVID-19 pandemic, economic uncertainty, and international conflicts like the Russia-Ukraine war
This list of stressors is stupid. Economic uncertainty is the only one worth thinking about. All the others are just noise or completely made up.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:42 pm to NC_Tigah
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Run those financial numbers vs 2 yrs of Community College followed by a university degree.
It's still exponentially more expensive today compared to real wages.
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You DO NOT attend Notre Dame to get a HS teaching cert at $70K/y and then bitch about student loan debt.
But older Gen X and older generations could go to Notre Dame and then be a teacher. That's exactly what we're discussing.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:43 pm to NC_Tigah
Young men without hope are pussies. And there we are at the nub of the matter. We are raising too many pussies.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:44 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Millennials are perhaps the first generation in human history to view those responsibilities as unique.
It also mentions that millennials are a sandwich generation
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:45 pm to NC_Tigah
I’m not burnt out from the lack of hope. If I were burnt out it’d probably be because I do what should be 4 different people’s job. However, I spent some time in the military and will never complain too much about a job that is in air condition with regular business hours and good pay.
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