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re: Gay marriage should get looked at again just like abortion will
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:22 am to TheFonz
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:22 am to TheFonz
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I don't care if a couple of homos get "married," just as long as any religious institutions are not forced to conduct a ceremony if it is against their dogma, or cake shops are forced to bake a cake if it is against the owner's beliefs.
Fighting it for so long has lead to blowback that has resulted in institutions and businesses being forced to do this. It's the same principle though. It isn't the governments job to tell these entities how to conduct their affairs. It's a free market issue.
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:22 am to CovingtonTigre
So when you look at all the problems today in this country, your first thought is
"We need more government control over who marries who"
Seriously? fricking seriously?
How about government shouldn't be in the marriage business in the first fricking place. Marriage was a religious item and should have remained so with the government only handling civil unions. But nope, dumbasses opened that door and guess what....now times changed and we can't put the tooth paste back in the tube.
So in the future, how about we don't open the fricking door. Not everything needs to be controlled or ruled on by fricking government.
"We need more government control over who marries who"
Seriously? fricking seriously?
How about government shouldn't be in the marriage business in the first fricking place. Marriage was a religious item and should have remained so with the government only handling civil unions. But nope, dumbasses opened that door and guess what....now times changed and we can't put the tooth paste back in the tube.
So in the future, how about we don't open the fricking door. Not everything needs to be controlled or ruled on by fricking government.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:22 am to CovingtonTigre
Turns out gay marriage didn't destroy straight marriages after all.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:23 am to CovingtonTigre
Nice try Dem.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:23 am to TheFonz
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I don't care if a couple of homos get "married," just as long as any religious institutions are not forced to conduct a ceremony if it is against their dogma, or cake shops are forced to bake a cake if it is against the owner's beliefs.
This.
Whether or not they are allowed to be legally married they are still going to be homosexual. So you aren't solving any "moral" issue by preventing them from being legally married.
The issue is the moving goalpost from "tolerance", which I think most people are, to demanding "acceptance" of that lifestyle
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:24 am to CovingtonTigre
If you're truly a conservative, you shouldn't want government having any say so on 2 consenting adults getting married.
Leave your religion or personal preferences out of it. Just because it is against your religion or you think it's "icky" doesn't mean your feelings should apply to how another person lives their life.
Leave your religion or personal preferences out of it. Just because it is against your religion or you think it's "icky" doesn't mean your feelings should apply to how another person lives their life.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:24 am to Baylor Kyle
It still undermines the concept of marriage.
But we lost these battles a long time ago.
But we lost these battles a long time ago.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:24 am to gatorrocks
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No. Looks at how many gay Republicans there are now that have moved away from the left because of their shitty policies.
Republicans can come out in support of state legislatures granting the gays the right to marriage. But, at the same time, come out against an ABSURD and COMPLETELY F*CKING RIDICULOUS position that it's a Constitutional right.
Once again, the problem is what that decision has led to and could lead to. Remember, the Obergfell decision departed from over 100 years of Supreme Court precedent and just invented a "Constitutional right" out of whole cloth be declaring that gays have some sort of "Constitutional right" of "DIGNITY." It was a complete f*cking joke. But, Roe v. Wade did the same thing by making up a Constitutional right to "Privacy" to hold that there is a Constitutional right to an abortion.
After Obergfell, the Supreme Court actually completely rewrote the definition of "Sex" in the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to hold that mentally disturbed trannies are covered by the act -- Gorsuch did this while admitting that it was clear that the act was not meant to apply to trannies.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:24 am to CovingtonTigre
Civil unions should have been the way to go. That would be fair and still maintain a distinction.
Does any conservative care if 2 gays have legal partner rights? I doubt it.
But to equate 2 partners to a husband and wife marriage is the distinction we lost. It is a slippery slope culturally and that is a part of it.
Does any conservative care if 2 gays have legal partner rights? I doubt it.
But to equate 2 partners to a husband and wife marriage is the distinction we lost. It is a slippery slope culturally and that is a part of it.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:25 am to BallsEleven
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If you're truly a conservative, you shouldn't want government having any say so on 2 consenting adults getting married.
This is a battle between tradition, and civilizational decay.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:25 am to Metaloctopus
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I disagree. If we want God to bless this country, we can't turn our backs on issues that betray the Biblical values this country was founded on. It's the fact that this country has allowed these things to happen, and just shrugged it's shoulders and said "eh, not my problem" for so long about so many important moral issues, that we find ourselves in the position we're currently in: Trying to win back our country from utter insanity and depravity.
And see I believe as a Christian and follower of Christ, that God will bless this country and its people if we allow them to make their own decisions based on his teachings, and not forcing our citizens to follow his teachings by rule of law. Of all the gifts he gave us, the freedom to make our own choices (including whether or not to follow him) is up there with some of the best and most important.
The government should operate similarly, their rules should be secular and allow citizens to make their decisions to honor him or not, or more likely learn from their mistakes and continually get better at honoring him throughout their life.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:26 am to Lima Whiskey
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Marriage was a contract founded on having children, nothing less and nothing more. Gay marriage was an attack on that. And it shows how much we’ve declined, and how rapidly it’s happening.
I remember being told that if gay marrige was legalized it would open the door to all kinds of other deamnds. If we agrred to gay marriage then they would continue to push th envelope with their demands on what society will be forced to accept. I laughed it off.
I was wrong
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:26 am to Flats
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It’s revealing how many conservatives don’t mind SCOTUS activism as long as they agree with the outcome.
Our culture is dying.
This post was edited on 6/4/21 at 9:27 am
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:27 am to BallsEleven
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If you're truly a conservative, you shouldn't want government having any say so on 2 consenting adults getting married.
If you’re truly a conservative you recognise the harm done by a SCOTUS that dictates their personal politics to the rest of the country. Gay marriage may or may not be a good thing, but an activist court is a terrible thing.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:28 am to GatorReb
quote:I don't care what they do. I just don't like words being re-defined.
Why does it matter to you what two consenting adults do with their marriage life?
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:28 am to 14&Counting
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I was wrong
I was too.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:29 am to 14&Counting
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I was wrong
Biggly. Now go bake that cake.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:32 am to Baylor Kyle
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Marriage is a religious institution.
Hasn't been for a long time and that has nothing to do with gays.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:33 am to CovingtonTigre
The government shouldn't be involved in any type of marriage to begin with.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:34 am to CovingtonTigre
Because no one cares.
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