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re: Gay marriage should get looked at again just like abortion will

Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:12 am to
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:12 am to
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they are obligated to extend the option to all consenting adults


That’s just your puritanical morality trying to tell the rest of us how we live our lives. Kid Luv 4ever!!!

The number of outright contradictions in this thread from sentence to sentence is depressing.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11804 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:12 am to
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Why can’t we do the same with gay marriage? I don’t know get why so many other “Republicans” just gave up on this issue.

Because its a losing issue and stupid to fight against
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41644 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:12 am to
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I wonder how many men on this board like be willing to give up the federal benefits of marriage in order to get rid of gay marriage?

My guess is not many
Yeah, probably not many. It's always a temptation to prioritize personal wealth and comfort over moral rightness.
Posted by DarthTiger
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:13 am to
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This post was edited on 6/14/21 at 9:59 am
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:14 am to
Why should I give a shite if two girls want to marry each other? Dumb. Most people support it...would be a massively loss for Republicans.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41644 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:18 am to
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I guerss republican hate for gay people is waning.
Why do you assume all people who against gay "marriage" are so because they hate homosexuals? I'm against it whole-heartedly because of my religious convictions, yet also because of my religious convictions, I can show love, mercy, and grace towards homosexuals at the same time because they are made in God's image with value and dignity that is rightfully owed to them.

I don't have to support a redefinition of what God has instituted or support the immoral actions of others to love those people and seek their well-being.

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I hope the same happens for their hate for minorties being able to vote.
Why do you think that supporting more secure elections means that you don't want minorities to vote? I think our elections are very insecure and open to manipulation and fraud, yet I don't care about the skin color or sex of the individuals who are voting if the elections are more secure. I'm in favor of regulations that apply to all Americans the same.
This post was edited on 6/4/21 at 1:17 pm
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12507 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:18 am to
We have bigger issue to fight like brainwashing in our schools . CRT and this trans push in schools will a big court room fight . The organizations on right are researching now how to fight these issues .
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
21286 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:19 am to
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I disagree. If we want God to bless this country, we can't turn our backs on issues that betray the Biblical values this country was founded on. It's the fact that this country has allowed these things to happen, and just shrugged it's shoulders and said "eh, not my problem" for so long about so many important moral issues, that we find ourselves in the position we're currently in: Trying to win back our country from utter insanity and depravity


Religion is part of this worlds problem has been since the dawn of man. Do you think we need to establish another crusade? Or have America practice beliefs like that of the Middle East? Where if they would find your son with another man he would be persecuted. You’d just be all “whelp it’s god law son sorry boutcha”

You can have God anywhere at anytime. Look out the window and there God is. Look at your children and there God is. Your wife. You look at the gay couple in store and you will find God there as well because God is love and God is creation.

Should a church or a priest be forced to marry them? OF COURSE NOT!

Should a Christian cake baker be forced to make their wedding cake? OF COURSE NOT!

There are other avenues to get these things done without infringing on either persons and these people can coexist.

Both sides are to blame. They just keep fueling each other and creating hate. That’s not what my God wants.

It all boils down to what’s right. It’s just that simple.
Posted by PickupAutist
Member since Sep 2018
3022 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:19 am to
The “why do I care what consenting adults do” excuse is so spineless and immoral. It’s worth nothing but contempt. You see that “they just want hospital visit rights” was a Trojan horse that has turned into children’s school lessons on buttsex, devil horned trannies making story time at the library, and an entire mini-industry built around hormones/surgery/tv shows for mutilating kids. Even with hindsight, are people still too retarded to see why they should care? You’ll never win by declaring yourself not your brothers keeper, and in the end, your pussification on these stances might not cost you anything but it does your children.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:20 am to
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grace towards homosexuals at the same time because they are made in God's image


God likes it in all the holes.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:21 am to
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Absolutely not.


Take it up with the fed

Refusing government benefits on the basis of sex is a violation of federal discrimination law

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Marriage is designed to produce children


This statement is completely meaningless in the context of this discussion

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And in turn, why the state protects and promotes it.


That’s not why tax breaks for married couples exist. They were introduced in 1948 to address loopholes that allowed high income married households to pay even less in taxes than they would be paying under the new tax rules. Today married tax breaks actually only benefit discordant income households and those with only one income, households where both adults earn high incomes are better off filing separately.
Posted by RancherReb
MS
Member since Jan 2021
1052 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:23 am to
Should be civil unions , not marriage. Two men can not marry. Should be a state issue, though.

Main issue number one is border. And DeSantis needs to realize the amount of foreigners he has in his own state. Many of them are building condos in Florida for wealthy conservatives. We don’t have to have the condos.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41644 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:24 am to
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Religion is part of this worlds problem has been since the dawn of man
Sin, not religion. All people are religious. It's the focus of their religious desires that differ.

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It all boils down to what’s right. It’s just that simple.
How do we know what is right?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:25 am to
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Why can’t we do the same with gay marriage? I don’t know get why so many other “Republicans” just gave up on this issue.


Why do you give all that much of a frick what two consenting people enter a legal binding contract? Sorry, if you want to lose this is how you do it. Keep up with protecting kids from the transgender issue, but the gay boat has sailed.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21455 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:25 am to
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This is the least of America’s concern right now.

And frankly shouldn’t give a shite if a guy wants to marry another guy.


Agreed.

But don't try and force churches to host the weddings or try and inhibit their speech on the issue.

Signed,

An atheist
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
21286 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:25 am to
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How do we know what is right?


I guess....Faith?

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Sin, not religion. All people are religious. It's the focus of their religious desires that differ.


Religion creates desire? Hummm
This post was edited on 6/4/21 at 10:26 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:28 am to
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No. Looks at how many gay Republicans there are now that have moved away from the left because of their shitty policies.


Exactly. Trump literally doubled the gay vote from 2016 to 2020. Want to frick that up, tell them we won’t let them marry their soul mate. We should do even better next time if the Left continues to destroy the gay community in the name of tolerance for the trans community. Let them die on that trans hill because it’s causing sane gay people to see how batshit crazy the Left has become and now they’re joining our side.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41644 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:31 am to
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I guess....Faith?
If religion is the problem, as you say, then faith in what? Faith that your moral compass is oriented the right way? All people think that what they believe about reality is right, including their moral convictions. How do we do what is right if so many people differ on what they believe is the right thing to do?

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Religion creates desire? Hummm
I didn't say that religion "creates" desire. Desire comes from within but can be influenced by all sorts of factors, including religious beliefs. Since all people are naturally religious, all people have their desires influenced.

Like I said, religion isn't the problem. Sin is the problem.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
39990 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:32 am to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41644 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:33 am to
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Exactly. Trump literally doubled the gay vote from 2016 to 2020. Want to frick that up, tell them we won’t let them marry their soul mate. We should do even better next time if the Left continues to destroy the gay community in the name of tolerance for the trans community. Let them die on that trans hill because it’s causing sane gay people to see how bat shite crazy the Left has become and now they’re joining our side.
At some point, we as human beings need to start caring about what is right, not what is politically expedient.

If 80% of the population supported abortion, should the Republicans stop fighting against it to obtain more votes?
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