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re: Fox confirms only $1.3 billion for wall in supposed 'deal'

Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:00 pm to
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
6464 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:00 pm to
Trump may sign this deal, let the Dems jizz all over themselves and then bomb them with Emergency declaration or reallocation of existing funds.

He's going to do whatever he can to get the wall built.

If the bullshite courts try to stop him he will ride the Wall to victory in 2020 like he did in 2016

The wall is a winning issue for him.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19810 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:01 pm to
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Even if Trump decides that the legal obstacles of an executive order are less daunting that those that would come with a national emergency declaration, tapping unspent funds intended for disaster relief and military construction would bring serious political and policy risks.

Taking Corps funds away for rebuilding in Puerto Rico instead of Texas isn’t exactly going to win him votes in Florida? Also he would be taking funds out of California. Opponents are going to point out he’s favoring red states over blue when pulling funding?


Appropriations is a convoluted world that most people don't understand. Trump can't just go and take money that has been appropriated by Congress. However, depending on the appropriations, if money isn't obligated by a certain date (this varies from appropriation to appropriation) then it is eligible to be "swept" by OMB. The Admin then has a lot more flexibility in spending the money once it has been swept. In a lot of cases, it is just reprogrammed back to the original Agency after the sweep. Taking money back from a state is even harder but happens in cases that the state, for whatever reason, hasn't made progress in spending the money. So there are a few ways for the Trump admin to acquire this money but it would be under a mechanism that most wouldn't understand and it would be easy for the MSM/Ds to spin.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5841 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:01 pm to
Blunts wife and son(ex-governor) are both lobbyists. He is bought and paid for by the highest bidder.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49332 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:03 pm to
Fox now saying it can be any design currently deployed including steel slats.

I'm waiting to see more before getting bent out of shape as I know Trump will win in the end on this. There is too much support for it.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72661 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:04 pm to
NO DEAL BITCHES

BRING IN MILITARY TO BUILD IT AND DECLARE EMERGENCY
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:04 pm to
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Fox now saying it can be any design currently deployed including steel slats.


Bull shite stipulation.

quote:

I'm waiting to see more before getting bent out of shape as I know Trump will win in the end on this. There is too much support for it.


We'll see. He hasn't gotten it done to this point, so until he gets done, I'm skeptical.
Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
Member since Aug 2018
7748 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:06 pm to
It's funded through the military budget. Trump is playing the Dems and exposing their opposition for what it is:
bullshite outcry to keep future voters flowing in, and allow drugs and human trafficking to stream in.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90623 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:10 pm to
That’s less than the 1.6 billion he originally had. This isn’t a true compromise this is the GOP taking it up the arse.

3 billion would be an acceptable compromise
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:12 pm to
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That’s less than the 1.6 billion he originally had. This isn’t a true compromise this is the GOP taking it up the arse.


Shelby is a cuck. Someone else in there needs to be in the negotiations if he thinks any part of this is remotely acceptable.
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
6464 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:15 pm to
Now we know why Nancy said they could probably reach a deal if the White House stayed out of it.

Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90623 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:16 pm to
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Prohibitions on use of concrete wall or other Trump Wall prototypes. Only “existing technologies” for border barriers can be built– the same things that were built before President Trump.





This is existing technologies. Build it. The above is just word play so Dems can pretend they owned Trump
Posted by swamie
Where opportunity meets hard work
Member since Jan 2007
27253 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:16 pm to
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“It will create a firestorm, once you start taking money that congressmen think is in their districts,” said Jim Dyer, a former staff director for the House Appropriations Committee. “You will cause yourself a problem if that money was directed away from any type of project or activity because I guarantee it has some constituency on Capitol Hill.”



Sounds like Jim thinks earmarks are still a thing. Those projects are appropriated by Congress into a large bucket and OMB in conjunction with the Corps decide on the projects that get funded. If the state can't find the match to get the project going...like you said...it can get swept.


Someone asked me if I knew who controlled the purse strings earlier. It's still Mick. It was always Mick.


Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29685 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:30 pm to
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Shelby. Holy shite so worthless
a testiment to the stupidity of Alabama voters
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:34 pm to
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This is existing technologies. Build it. The above is just word play so Dems can pretend they owned Trump


Agree but Trump needs 3 billion at a minimum
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27481 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:39 pm to
The first shutdown was showing how Democrats in charge want open borders and hate Trump.

The second shutdown is gonna show how Republicans in charge want open borders and hate Trump.
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:40 pm to
It absolutely boggles the mind that any Republican could ever even consider agreeing to this.

This sort of joke is only possible because Republicans are actively working to subvert Trump and the wall.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:41 pm to
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Don't give into them.

Call their bluff and declare the national emergency.


Yeah use the power of the federal government to take people's land and waste taxpayer money in the name of being an authoritarian piece of crap. You guys are the worst Patriots ever
Posted by TimeOutdoors
AK
Member since Sep 2014
12123 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:43 pm to
The vast majority the government either owns or has an easement on anyway.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:43 pm to
Taking people’s lands?

Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:44 pm to
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Trump is playing the Dems
Totally maga
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