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re: For 28 years I had to hold my nose to vote for Bush, Mcain, Romney, W, etc….
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:58 am to Paddyshack
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:58 am to Paddyshack
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If you pretend Joe Biden got 81 million legitimate votes in 2020, then you have a point.
Biden got very close to that. Sure, they cheated in a few battleground states, but that’s not more than a million votes, or so. Enough to swing the election perhaps, but not enough to change the fact that Trump was below 48% of the popular vote…AGAIN!
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:41 am to winkchance
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Odd thing about Trump - when he ran the media loved him and the republicans and pundits called him a life long democrat.
Then he won the nomination and the media was excited and the republicans were anxious because Hillary was a shoe in and trump was a life long democrat's.
Then he actually won and the media and the left went full on nuclear and planned an impeachment.
Then he did things that benefited the country as a whole and the left cried russia, racist, guy who pees on whores. Meanwhile the republican establishment became torn - they liked the gravy train the left fed them with, but their constituents were asking them to grow a set. They could not.
Trump also would not get us into any wars and his policies helped minorities more than any other administration.
So in a matter of a decade, I guy who was a life long democrat who had received NAACP awards from Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, and someone who was a real estate developer and hotel chain owner is now a fascist, racist, right wing war monger, threat to freedom.
The establishment doth protest too much, methinks, and the zombie hoards are more than easily whipped into line to scream how bad he is.
If Trump did nothing else, he revealed the fraud which is out Government, Hollywood, Media, and the Republican Party (We already knew about the Democrats).
And yet most people will believe the next lie because Trump hurst feelings and they need a trophy.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:44 am to udtiger
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Trump failed to listen to his instincts and listened to the wrong people (Fauci, et al).
What makes you think he won't do the same thing again? He didn't listen to his instincts on pulling us out of Afghanistan... the RIGHT way, not the Biden way.... when he was in office.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 10:47 am
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:52 am to tigerpawl
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Desantis appears to be a terrific candidate, Trump is still the answer to fix this intolerable mess.
Quote of the year material here.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:54 am to UFMatt
This is exactly right. We don’t need moral victories and purists will have to suffer in silence. Getting our candidate elected is the first priority.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:03 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Trump let Covidians try to destroy the nation.
I’m not going to sit here and pretend Trump wasn’t retarded in 2020. That’s true
But let’s also not pretend that it wasn’t all done to take him out for a reason. He wasn’t the CAUSE. He was the REASON.
The entire problem with Trump is that he was a GREAT President in a time when we needed a true revolutionary who could see through the bullshite and being willing to do whatever it took to stand up against it.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 11:05 am
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:30 am to Paddyshack
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Where did I say that?
That’s why I asked
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Do you think the election will be any more legitimate if Ron runs?
Do you think the election will be anymore
legitimate if Trump runs again? You already believe he was cheated in 2020. What will be different this time?
I keep reading die hard Trump supporters shite on DeSantis (even though you praised him the past 4 years and would be pushing him now if trump won in 2020) bc trump fired some shots at him.
To put it simply, die hard Trump supporters don’t want Ron bc Trump said so and you claim he can’t win bc DEMs will cheat…again… but fail to apply that towards trump…, “I know we’re going to get cheated again, but I want my guy, Trump, to get cheated…again!!!” Lol.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:39 am to jawnybnsc
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What happened in 2020?
Trump created COVID and mail in ballot harvesting, apparently.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:41 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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Covid was to stop Trump. The nation was collateral damage.
100%
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:49 am to UFMatt
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All this infighting is just the propaganda machine trying to turn us against each other.
100% But at the same time a lot of us are at our breaking point with the establishment. We're done with the BS. I will vote for Desantis if he's the nominee but I'm going full-on Trump until that happens. frick the Swamp. Desantis is just going to suck the establishment/Cheney neocon/corporate oligarch cock to get their support and help to defeat Trump. Then Desantis will owe them. He'll be their puppet, which is something Trump wouldn't do and it's why they will stop at nothing to ruin him. He didn't need them. I'm rolling with that guy. F everyone else.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 12:57 pm to bstew3006
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I keep reading die hard Trump supporters shite on DeSantis (even though you praised him the past 4 years and would be pushing him now if trump won in 2020) bc trump fired some shots at him.
To put it simply, die hard Trump supporters don’t want Ron bc Trump said so and you claim he can’t win bc DEMs will cheat…again… but fail to apply that towards trump…, “I know we’re going to get cheated again, but I want my guy, Trump, to get cheated…again!!!” Lol.
You have never seen me say anything like whatever you just implied.
I have never once shat on Desantis. Try again.
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This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 11/17/22 at 1:01 pm to minister of truth
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Trump initially went along with this
Which is why he is a moron.
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he was the first to state it had to end. It was primarily the Democratic governors who continued it into 2021 & beyond.
Then to top it off, he was too inept to protect US citizens from having their civil liberties infringed.
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Trump simply eliminated most of the red tape for bringing a "vaccination" to the public. He sure didn't create it in a lab & he never mandated it.
Please don't make me link the infinite number of videos of that clown taking credit for the 'vaccines'. He's responsible for it and he's the first to tell you so.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 1:03 pm to Powerman
Better back in 2020 than now.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 1:03 pm to Kingshakabooboo
Couple that with had I known what Bush, McCain, and Romney were actually then, RINO's, it still wouldn't change my vote. Republican was still the better vote then.
There are real actual Satanic forces operating within Democratic politics today. Democrats need to wake up and start cutting it from their party.
There are real actual Satanic forces operating within Democratic politics today. Democrats need to wake up and start cutting it from their party.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 1:04 pm to dchog
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Better back in 2020 than now
So you're happy that Biden is president
Because Trump gift wrapped the shite to him with a bunch of unforced errors
Posted on 11/17/22 at 1:07 pm to Kingshakabooboo
Trump had had his good points, but let's not act like Covid hit in November of 2020. He didn't drain the swamp, kept putting loser after loser in his cabinet/confidence, didn't fire Fauci, and spent absolutely insane amounts of money which partially is responsible for the situation we are in.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 11/17/22 at 1:40 pm to GumboPot
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2020 was China's fault.
And whatever legislation passed congress in 2020 was veto proof. There is nothing Trump could have done about the spending. Every senator and almost every congressman voted for massive COVID spending.
And don't confuse COVID mandates with Trump. That came with Biden. The vaccine was introduced after Biden won in December of 2020.
If you want anybody to believe Trump will fight like hell for the American middle class, is tough from his NYC roots, is strong enough to stare down the security state - you've got to stop making excuses like he's a little girl.
Trump shite the bed on Covid. Period. You're delusional if you think otherwise.
You'd be advocating for him better to argue that yeah, he fricked up in 2020, but we can count on him having learned his lesson and it has prepared him for the fight ahead. And without a reelection to worry about, he won't be so sensitive to what Don Lemon is saying about him.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:11 pm to Kingshakabooboo
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For 28 years I had to hold my nose to vote for Bush, Mcain, Romney, W, etc…even though they didn’t ever move our country forward. But one time the other half of our party can’t vote Trump even though he has a proven track record of putting our country in the best position it had ever been in.
Well said.
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