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re: For 28 years I had to hold my nose to vote for Bush, Mcain, Romney, W, etc….

Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:39 am to
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65809 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:39 am to
Trump was baited by the plandemic,I’ll concede that, but he’s our only hope to stem the hegemony of the Globalist and Communists. The one guy who will fight for the middle class, and lift all boats up. There’s a reason they go after him, and also the reason we had the best economy in 50 years under him; the reason they had to do what they did; as they couldn’t show the people another way…..I wasn’t a fan of Trump when he ran in 16, and no matter what they do to destroy him, I’ve seen the truth, and will vote for him as long as I can…
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173799 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:39 am to
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There are no instincts to follow during a pandemic. You have to rely on experts especially when you have no scientific are medical background.

And he literally ignored the pandemic response procedures that the previous 2 administrations put in place

This is well known
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173799 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:40 am to
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The one guy who will fight for the middle class, and lift all boats up.

And if he wants any chance of winning he needs to make the middle class the centerpiece of his campaign

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:41 am to
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There are no instincts to follow during a pandemic. You have to rely on experts especially when you have no scientific are medical background.


Consulting economics experts and mental health experts probably would have helped us out a lot instead of allowing medical people to decide the economy could be sacrificed.

Fact: Trump allowed authoritarians to run amok, did nothing to stop them and then bailed out the very same people who terrorized their cities and states

That's not leadership in the least. No one except his loyalist would trust him to lead anything anymore.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:43 am to
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shite, Trump even made it a MAGA issue. He offered zero pushback and even promoted it.


There is not one politician except for possibly a libertarian candidate what will run from the $2.2 trillion dollar COVID rescue package. NOT ONE. Not even DeSantis, Paul Ryan or MGT. And if they did they would be crushed.


Why? Because the federal government took measures to "flatten the curve" and it fiscally hurt everyone and since the federal government implemented the plan and they were responsible for the monetary consequences.

You sit practically alone on that legislation. Everyone was for it.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173799 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:45 am to
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There is not one politician except for possibly a libertarian candidate what will run from the $2.2 trillion dollar COVID rescue package. NOT ONE. Not even DeSantis, Paul Ryan or MGT. And if they did they would be crushed.

Fine

So can we at least stop pretending that 2020 had nothing to do with inflation? Biden gets all the blame for inflation (and he certainly deserves plenty of it) but the spending during the Trump administration didn't help at all.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:45 am to
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And he literally ignored the pandemic response procedures that the previous 2 administrations put in place

This is well known



If this is well known, can you link it because I don't know about it.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:47 am to
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Fact: Trump allowed authoritarians to run amok, did nothing to stop them and then bailed out the very same people who terrorized their cities and states



Fact: you are conflating Fauci's time under Biden with his time under Trump.
Posted by TOPAL
Member since Mar 2010
5055 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:48 am to
Ok, name a policy that Trump has//had that doesn’t help the middle class.
Niow, do the Dems and GOPe
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173799 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:51 am to
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If this is well known, can you link it because I don't know about it.


LINK

Wouldn't take much googling to find many more articles stating the same. I'm not familiar with this source but it's the first thing in the google search

Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
13049 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:51 am to
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But one time the other half of our party can’t vote Trump even though he has a proven track record of putting our country in the best position it had ever been in.


They voted for him in 2016


What about 2020, just gonna ignore voter turnout?
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
18914 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:53 am to
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What happened in 2020?


A chinese bioweapon was released on the world that US taxpayers paid for.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:53 am to
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So can we at least stop pretending that 2020 had nothing to do with inflation?


I know the COVID spending has a lot to do with inflation. In fact when Trump lost I made a couple of post stating at the time that a silver lining of Trump losing was that he will not have to endure the political consequences of the inflation that is about to ensue from COVID spending.

I would estimate about half of the inflation we have seen is due to COVID spending. The other half is due to the massive infrastructure bill, Inflation Reduction Act, war spending, regulatory policy and energy policy.

We just don't have enough production in the economy yet to offset spending increases.
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
13049 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:54 am to
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you pretend Joe Biden got 81 million legitimate votes in 2020, then you have a point.


So they will be legitimate this coming election?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:54 am to
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that US taxpayers paid for.



Are still paying for and will be for years.
Posted by HANNANB
Marrero, LA
Member since Aug 2014
162 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:55 am to
The orange haired buffoon lost and tried to claim the election was stolen. If you only have half a brain you should be able to figure out that that was just a ruse perpetrated by Trump months before the election. Not to mention bungling Covid (over 1,000,000 deaths).
Hopefully all of the MAGA morons have learned their lesson about him! Also if justice serves he'll be spending 2024 and beyond in a 3x orange jumpsuit!!
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:57 am to
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Hopefully all of the MAGA morons have learned their lesson about him!


That's a lovely list of lessons you laid out.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 7:58 am
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
11782 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:59 am to
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What happened in 2020?


A color revolution
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23264 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:59 am to
Because of power of the media. Trump does his very best to inform us of the media's never-ending willingness to lie to us.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20205 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:00 am to
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Trump had a terrible year that year and the country suffered for it


So who would have done a better job being hamstrung with Fauxci, Grandma Deborah, the CDC and NIH?
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