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re: Federal judge orders Texas to air condition all prisons by the end of 2029

Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:09 pm to
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11628 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:09 pm to
the euro's actually prohibit ac in the name of global warming.
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:10 pm to
Seriously though.

No AC in prisons in Texas?

That is fan fricking tastic.
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
4788 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:15 pm to
Stop derailing the thread slowfloretard
Posted by Herschal
USA
Member since Sep 2011
2476 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:46 pm to
Enforce your ruling, Fed boy.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:49 pm to
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and how/why does a federal judge have any authority over anything within the state of Texas specifically its prison system?

Good question. A better question might be why is the industry largely privatized?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
41067 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:51 pm to
We're on page 3 and I realize this was from a prisoner litigation but the conditions are pretty bad for the guards as well.
Posted by TheFolker
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:52 pm to
Posted by TheFolker
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:56 pm to
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violate the Eighth Amendment

I actually kind of like the precedent here. If the 8th amendment applies to lack of air conditioning then the arguments that the 2nd amendment only applies to muskets go out the window.
This post was edited on 9/22/26 at 8:58 pm
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117912 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 9:17 pm to
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In his order, U.S. District Judge Robert Pitman found that conditions in Texas prisons without air conditioning violate the Eighth Amendment — which protects against cruel and unusual punishment — and that TDCJ’s current response to extreme heat is insufficient


Was there air conditioning in any prison in the USA in 1791?

No?

End of fricking story.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124767 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 9:38 pm to
He’s a gay
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
81464 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 9:46 pm to
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I actually kind of like the precedent here. If the 8th amendment applies to lack of air conditioning then the arguments that the 2nd amendment only applies to muskets go out the window.
Interesting post. I like it.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
34231 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 9:55 pm to
You are grasping at straws again as usual.

Texas also executes prisoners. A fed judge can’t come in and say they can’t because it’s cruel and unusual.

Federal prisons is a different story but feds (us taxpayers) have to pay for it. My understanding this is state prisons and Tx needs to tell him to pack sand

There is a distinction between states rights for state prisons and fed rights for fed prisons.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483187 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 9:58 pm to
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You are grasping at straws again as usual.

Texas also executes prisoners. A fed judge can’t come in and say they can’t because it’s cruel and unusual.

Federal prisons is a different story but feds (us taxpayers) have to pay for it. My understanding this is state prisons and Tx needs to tell him to pack sand

There is a distinction between states rights for state prisons and fed rights for fed prisons.

I swear some of y'all can't read

"State's rights" have no bearing on an incorporated Constitutional-level discussion.

8A was incorporated via the 14A officially in 1962.

Any incorporated right from the Constitution applies to the states the same as the feds.

I swear some of y'all are impressive at your inability to follow simple discussions. I know comprehension may be too much to ask, but just follow along logically at a bare minimum, please.
This post was edited on 9/22/26 at 10:00 pm
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
29327 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 9:59 pm to
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install AC but keep the thermostat at 80

There would be no problem with that. Presently the thermostat is set at 115.
Posted by Herschal
USA
Member since Sep 2011
2476 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 10:04 pm to
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A better question might be why is the industry largely privatized?



Posted by Doak Walker
Dallas
Member since Sep 2022
731 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 10:05 pm to
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Federal judge orders Texas to air condition all prisons

The facilities manager for that building should immediately order that the HVAC for that judge's courtroom be dismantled and sent to Huntsville.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 10:12 pm to
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Posted by Prodigal Son
Member since May 2023
2021 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 10:17 pm to
Air conditioning is not a human right. And even if it was, you’re in prison. It’s not supposed to be comfortable.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117912 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 10:18 pm to
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8A was incorporated via the 14A officially in 1962


Was there air conditioning in prisons in 1791?

How about 1891?

1935?

No.

Not cruel and unusual.

The end.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483187 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

Was there air conditioning in prisons in 1791?

How about 1891?

1935?

No.

Not cruel and unusual.

The end.


I'm only answering the questions why this is in a federal court and why that federal court has power over Texas state prisons.

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and how/why does a federal judge have any authority over anything within the state of Texas specifically its prison system?


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It's litigation over federal constitutional rights.

Why wouldn't it be in federal court?


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