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FBI took everything from Micheal Cohen's office & home and the Set-up of Michael Cohen

Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:20 pm
Posted by MrLSU
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:20 pm
This looks like they are setting up Michael Cohen using the Judicial process to force him to waive his 5th Amendment Rights which would then force Stormy Daniels to testify against Cohen. It is the only reason that she and Michael Avenatti would be at this hearing.

Judge Wood had ordered that Cohen come to court with a full list of his clients.

His court filing said that all his records had been seized by federal agents and he was unable to search any of them himself.

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Avenatti tweeted on Friday: 'The Hon Kimba Wood’s order directing Mr. Cohen to appear in person on Monday at 2 pm to potentially answer questions from her could be a problem if he intends on taking the 5th. I checked and the weather forecast for Mon looks very Stormy... #basta.'"

Judge Wood said on Friday that Cohen needed to be present at the hearing on his temporary restraining order request to help answer questions about his law practice."

"Prosecutors who seek to continue their review of seized contents have argued that Cohen barely practiced law so most of the documents aren't off limits."
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59471 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:22 pm to
This whole thing is crazy. This is not the normal procedure.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138931 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:23 pm to
How does this guy fit in the muh Russia goose chase again?
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:23 pm to
It's a squeeze on Cohen to get him to agree to an immunity deal for him to spill on Trump, and also to data mine his records in order to attack Trump.

Dershowitz is on point when he says A-C privilege is about the client, not the attorney. Trump needs his attorney to go HAM on this. I'm surprised the ABA hasn't filed anything.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93381 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:24 pm to
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It's a squeeze on Cohen to get him to agree to an immunity deal for him to spill on Trump
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20931 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:24 pm to
Mueller using Nazi Germany tactics and the left applauds. SAD!
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55329 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:24 pm to
Cohen now knows what it feels like to be a political enemy of The Police Staat.

They got everything. All of his client interview recordings. All of his bank records.

They will comb through it all in order to find any crime or ethical irregularity.

I don't see how they can fail to find something, even if it's just Cohen bragging about running a Stop Sign five years ago.

It's SO obvious that they aren't taking any risks that some Outsider might de-rail the Trillion Dollar Wash DC Establishment Gravy Train.

This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 12:26 pm
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
21837 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:25 pm to
Can’t Trump just pardon him for any bullshite charges they throw at him?
Posted by Damone
FoCo
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32966 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:25 pm to
How Dems are okay with this is just appalling.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:30 pm to
Trump can only pardon federal crimes. I believe the taxi medallions would be a NY case and I would guess that NY has statutes that relate to bank fraud. This would take Cohen out of a pardon.

Also - with all the stuff they took, most likely they'll find something. The book, 'Three Felonies a Day' wasn't written as a LARP.

Note the forward was written by Dershowitz.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138931 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:31 pm to
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Mueller using Nazi Germany tactics and the left applauds. SAD!

You lose
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29741 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:46 pm to
A Russian oligarch owns the vast majority of Taxi Medallions in New York, Evgeny Freidman. I suspect this is what Mueller's Russian investigation is going to use to justify the referral over to the NY DOJ/FBI office.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37588 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:04 pm to
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Prosecutors who seek to continue their review of seized contents have argued that Cohen barely practiced law so most of the documents aren't off limits."


If he's an attorney and people pay him for his legal opinions or any legal work whatsoever and he is a member of the bar licensed to practice law in New York or wherever, then he's an attorney and as such the privilege stands. If Wood rules against him then you'll know the fix is in.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11854 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:06 pm to
quite a scene as Stormy arrives outside of Judge Wood's courtroom.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59471 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:12 pm to
So embarrassing. Even you should now see this as the fishing expedition it is. I fear you are going to prove to be like the rest of the Dems on here and not care that is a fishing expedition. The ends justify the means. Don't do it Doc.
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:16 pm to
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quite a scene as Stormy arrives outside of Judge Wood's courtroom.

It is going to be a shitshow. Can you imagine what it is going to look like when Manafort is tried? Holy frick buttons.

As for the A-C privilege, it is not absolute. Nor should it be. Otherwise sophisticated criminals would become lawyers so they can't be investigated.

Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

A Russian oligarch owns the vast majority of Taxi Medallions in New York, Evgeny Freidman. I suspect this is what Mueller's Russian investigation is going to use to justify the referral over to the NY DOJ/FBI office.


Which they will conveniently allow the state of NY to get a piece of so they can hold that over Cohen's head.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11854 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:16 pm to
Bonds, none of us knows what triggered Mueller and Rosenstein to send this on to SDNY. Let's hold our horses.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11854 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

It is going to be a shitshow. Can you imagine what it is going to look like when Manafort is tried? Holy frick buttons.

As for the A-C privilege, it is not absolute. Nor should it be. Otherwise sophisticated criminals would become lawyers so they can't be investigated.


Yeah, small stakes today - will there or won't there be a special master I think is the crux of it? Agree - Manafort trials (E. VA and D.C.) will be lit.
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:21 pm to
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Yeah, small stakes today - will there or won't there be a special master

Yeah. Also who is the special master? I think Cohen might be forced to answer some questions. There is a potential he will be held in contempt of court if he refuses to answer them, which would be fricking epic.

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Agree - Manafort trials (E. VA and D.C.) will be lit.

Yes, trials. Dems have to hope that they go on until close to the election, and return at least one guilty verdict.
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