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re: Erickson: Iran Deal is a Bad One
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:44 pm to prplhze2000
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:44 pm to prplhze2000
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In fact, one of the key terms of the deal is that the Iranians will be able to spend their $300 billion economic fund on whatever they want, including terrorism, with no restrictions from the United States.
We can read the MOU, and those who have know this guy is lying.
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:51 pm to prplhze2000
I wasn’t a fan of this war, but are you really going to cry about some ballistic missiles? if you actually wanted to get their missile count down to zero, you’re looking at a full-scale ground invasion.
sign the deal, move on, and focus on America First issues again.
sign the deal, move on, and focus on America First issues again.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:53 pm to slackster
“ No amount of logic will sway the sycophants here. If Trump does it, it must be good. If Trump tears it up in 2 weeks, it was all part of the plan.”
So now the never Trump people who bitch and moan at every action, statement or propaganda of others think people that actually like what Trump is doing are the sycophants ? You’d be hard pressed to find another leader that has accomplished more while being attacked from inside government, the media and lawmakers on both sides of the aisle and still kicking arse. If me trusting what is being done daily from this administration is cultists then put a red hat on my head.
So now the never Trump people who bitch and moan at every action, statement or propaganda of others think people that actually like what Trump is doing are the sycophants ? You’d be hard pressed to find another leader that has accomplished more while being attacked from inside government, the media and lawmakers on both sides of the aisle and still kicking arse. If me trusting what is being done daily from this administration is cultists then put a red hat on my head.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:55 pm to prplhze2000
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Iran won't need nukes if it can use its missiles to threaten the whole region, Europe, or even here
Their ballistic missiles cannot reach the US. The furthest they can go is central Europe. They are a ME/Europe problem, not a US problem.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:12 pm to jp4lsu
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Objectives:
-destroy ballistic missile program
-destroy their nuke program
-destroy the govt leadership and have a new govt
Am I right on these objectives?
What have we accomplished exactly?
It's worse than that.
Not only did we not achieve any of those objectives. But we actually gave Iran a few huge wins that weren't even on the table before this fiasco started. Namely:
-- Sanctions are dropped
-- Iran can use the SWIFT system to exchange petroleum for USD currency
-- Unlimited oil exports
-- the ability to hold Qatar and the UAE gas exports terminals hostage via blackmail to buy their protection from ballistic missile strikes
-- no limits on their funding of proxy militias in Lebanon and Yemen
-- $30 billion in immediate hard currency
-- $300 billion in unrestricted foreign investment dollars (which they can use for whatever purpose they desire).
-- political legitimacy of the IRGC which dictated the terms of the deal with the United States of America.
This is just the high points. The political capital of standing up to the US and Israel and coming out on top is worth all that above, and more
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:15 pm to Nosevens
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So now the never Trump people who bitch and moan at every action, statement or propaganda of others think people that actually like what Trump is doing are the sycophants ?
Nah.
Being a sycophant makes you a sycophant.
I like what Trump is doing sometimes. Sometimes I don’t.
There are loads of people here that think he’s infallible, which is just as ridiculous as the people who think he’s never right.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:19 pm to slackster
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people here that think he’s infallible, which is just as ridiculous as the people who think he’s never right.
Don't be ridiculous. That's not how the Poliboard works. You have to be totally committed to your extremist ideology. There's really no room for rational moderation or critical thought here.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:49 pm to Juan Betanzos
quote:
Who???
are you
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:23 pm to Nosevens
“If me trusting what is being done daily from this administration is cultists then put a red hat on my head.”
Nobody called you a cultist because you support Trump.
It’s because your standard appears to be:
Trump succeeds? Genius.
Trump fails? Sabotage.
Trump changes position? Strategy.
Trump contradicts himself? 4D Chess!
Nobody called you a cultist because you support Trump.
It’s because your standard appears to be:
Trump succeeds? Genius.
Trump fails? Sabotage.
Trump changes position? Strategy.
Trump contradicts himself? 4D Chess!
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:30 pm to prplhze2000
life long anti-Trumper doesn't like the deal?
All is lost.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:34 pm to Lsut81
Yet. We didn't think they could reach Diego Garcia until they nearly did
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:40 pm to BamaGradinTn
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You mean the bombing that was only supposed to last a few weeks, dumbass?
No, dumb arse. And it was only a few weeks, fig g o t.
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:56 pm to Lsut81
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Their ballistic missiles cannot reach the US. The furthest they can go is central Europe. They are a ME/Europe problem, not a US problem.
Iran missle and drone arsenal were always the real and present threat to the region. Not their navy, not the airforce, not the theoretical nukes. And in case you have been paying attention, that threat shut down the SoH and is a real problem for entire world economy including us. Now I dont have the answer as to how to deal with them....but to suggest they aren't a US problem is to suggest regional security in the SofH isn't a US problem either.. I imagine the other Gulf states will now seek to arm to the teeth and harden defenses while at the same time play nice with Iran
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:57 pm to prplhze2000
The Obama deal was at least as good if not better.
Iran is keeping its nuclear program for all intents and purposes.
As a practical matter, they retain control of the Strait. Q
Oh, and they’re getting paid while a more radical, younger leader is now in charge…
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Iran is keeping its nuclear program for all intents and purposes.
As a practical matter, they retain control of the Strait. Q
Oh, and they’re getting paid while a more radical, younger leader is now in charge…
y
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:05 pm to No Colors
quote:
-- Sanctions are dropped
-- Iran can use the SWIFT system to exchange petroleum for USD currency
-- Unlimited oil exports
-- the ability to hold Qatar and the UAE gas exports terminals hostage via blackmail to buy their protection from ballistic missile strikes
-- no limits on their funding of proxy militias in Lebanon and Yemen
-- $30 billion in immediate hard currency
-- $300 billion in unrestricted foreign investment dollars (which they can use for whatever purpose they desire).
-- political legitimacy of the IRGC which dictated the terms of the deal with the United States of America.
You left out the crown jewel: authority over the SOH. It's has bigger strategic value than the nukes. Proof: They brought Trump to his knees with their control of it but not one functional nuke. Now they have been ceded authority over all transit through it.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:34 pm to slackster
You can not like a statement, mean tweet or a shot in the foot but it is the outcome that matters. That doesn’t make a sycophant just as drinking a beer nightly doesn’t make you a alcoholic
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:38 pm to prplhze2000
So now Iran is a threat?
Can't keep up anymore.
Can't keep up anymore.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:02 pm to prplhze2000
The $300 billion is contingent on them meeting terms and is from the gulf states as investment in infrastructure. It cannot be spent on “whatever they want including terrorism”
I swear these fricking retards that cannot read and comprehend. It is mind blowing.
I swear these fricking retards that cannot read and comprehend. It is mind blowing.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:07 pm to prplhze2000
Trump failed. Had a Democrat proposed this same exact thing many Trump Cultists would be all over them with rage. But Trump makes a dangerously retarded "deal" and the Cult Members are all "wInNiNg! 3D degree chess. He said he would bomb again but this is such a good deal." Ridiculous. Trump just made Iran even stronger in the end and betrayed this country.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:13 pm to prplhze2000
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Erick Erickson
A never Trump frick-stick who eased up on the “never” part to improve his ratings and clicks. And WTF sort of accent does he have? Sounds like some sort of Mel Blanc voice he invented to hide the fact that he’s from the Felicianas.
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