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Posted on 4/29/18 at 12:59 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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Home schooling is illegal in Germany. The law requiring students to attend public schools or approved private schools has been upheld despite challenges to it.
Great idea. We need to do this in the USA.
1) Luckily, the 14th Amendment prevents any state government from prohibiting homeschooling.
2) Homeschooled children outperform public school children in nearly every, single academic metric.
This post was edited on 4/29/18 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 4/29/18 at 1:09 pm to anc
Because politicians believe it’s more important to just graduate these unprepared people because they think it helps attract business by using data that shows high levels of educated workers in the area. Hasn’t really worked out for New Orleans or Baton Rouge has it?
Posted on 4/29/18 at 1:28 pm to Antonio Moss
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2) Homeschooled children outperform public school children in nearly every, single academic metric.
Plus, I'm assuming that the teachers don't have sex with the students near as often.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 1:34 pm to Joshjrn
1970s. 1st semester in college. My first weekly paper for my English class was a very marked up D. I had never even seen a C in high school. I figured out on my own that this professor and university were telling me that HS level crap isn't acceptable and they expected me to step up my game. It's no big deal. You just step up.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 2:41 pm to Antonio Moss
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2) Homeschooled children outperform public school children in nearly every, single academic metric.
I would fricking hope so. The average public school student is barely literate.
That’s a horribly low bar.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 2:45 pm to anc
Education should absolutely be a major, but the way it is taught today is useless.
Evidence based practices are sweeping doctors offices and classrooms instead of the age old method of “I bled this guy with leeches and in a week his cold went away” kind of practice that has been prevalent forever. These practices need to be taught and they need to be focused on.
Being a teacher shouldn’t be a damn “anyone can do it with any degree”. That’s one of the ways we have fricked ourselves in modern education.
Evidence based practices are sweeping doctors offices and classrooms instead of the age old method of “I bled this guy with leeches and in a week his cold went away” kind of practice that has been prevalent forever. These practices need to be taught and they need to be focused on.
Being a teacher shouldn’t be a damn “anyone can do it with any degree”. That’s one of the ways we have fricked ourselves in modern education.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 2:46 pm to CelticDog
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1. Usa does not have 10 million good paying union jobs in factories and 10 million farm labor jobs for the masses.
The USA has thousands of good paying skilled labor jobs that need to be filled, but little Johnny and his parents insist he go to college instead of training to be a electrician, welder, HVAC tech, machinist, etc.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 2:49 pm to CoachChappy
quote:Just wait until you see what they do to healthcare!
Academic standards have been lowered due to political decision making.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 3:36 pm to anc
Weird that it looks like you did some research for this post but didn't provide any citations.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 4:00 pm to Morty
My freshman English class at LSU was interesting. Not trying to brag too much but I was obviously the smartest one in that class. Some of the other students struggled to even read their papers out loud. Back then you could test out of the first English class with a 25 or above on the ACT so I never even took that class.
Unfortunately my superior reading and writing abilities never resulted in a decent job so those are overrated skills anyway.
Unfortunately my superior reading and writing abilities never resulted in a decent job so those are overrated skills anyway.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 4:41 pm to NIH
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That's what I assumed was going on. "Student athlete", what a joke. And that isn't even getting into the crime committed on campuses by players on these teams.
You can tell the big time revenue sports are farces because somewhere north of 90% of transfers are because of something involving the sport or discipline, not academics, unless they just flat flunk out and are not allowed to bluff their way through any more.
Nobody who is getting playing time and not having discipline problems ever says, "The academics here are not what I was seeking, I am going elsewhere."
Posted on 4/29/18 at 4:45 pm to anc
If you live in LA and didnt make the sacrifice to put your kids in private school, youve screwed Poochie.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 6:03 pm to Morty
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the writing is on a six grade level.
sixth
Posted on 4/29/18 at 6:16 pm to anc
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A colleague of mine stated that in high schools, the A student of today was more like the C student of our time. In fact, 60 percent of the grades given in high schools are As, yet 45% of graduates cannot read at a middle school level.
All Children Left Behind.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 6:20 pm to Joshjrn
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I went to very good schools, and it wasn't until late highschool/early college that I really wrapped my head around the fact that taking someone else's published work and "rewording it to make it your own thoughts" is fricking bullshite plagiarism
When I was in grad school, our papers had to have a certain percentage of quotes material. I could write my 8 page laper in u see an hour, but had to go spend another 1-3 hours digging for shite to quote to back up my claims.
I got a master in education. I didn’t need to quote anyone, because I was seeing situations play out at work. It was such crap.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 8:10 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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Home schooling is illegal in Germany. The law requiring students to attend public schools or approved private schools has been upheld despite challenges to it.
I don't really care about home schooling one way or the other. Home school kids make up such a tiny percentage of the student population I don't see what difference it makes.
What I like about the German system is they evaluate a students aptitude early on, and you are then educated based on your track, either vocational or university. All students are provided with the education, tools, and opportunities to succeed as a contributing member of society when they leave high school. Vocational students only go to school half of the time their last 3 years, the other half of the time they are apprenticing.
Also note there are in between tracks, and the final decision is up to the parents.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 8:24 pm to anc
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Earlier this semester, I gave a simple assignment. It consisted of a 2-3 page paper just to see if my students were grasping a particular subject.
A freshman student who sat in the front row, spoke up in discussions, and seemed like a good student turned in a piece of garbage. It was about a page and a half, didn't make sense, and earned this student a C, and I was being generous.
The student came to my office and cried. She said she had never made a C in her life. And I believed her. I showed her what she did wrong, gave her some pointers, and the next paper was much improved. But I could not get over how bad the first paper was for such a good student.
A colleague of mine stated that in high schools, the A student of today was more like the C student of our time. In fact, 60 percent of the grades given in high schools are As, yet 45% of graduates cannot read at a middle school level.
Some more stats of interest:
According t the ACT only 37% of test takers are "ready for college," yet 70 percent of high school graduates enroll in college.
Among black students, the number is 7%.
63% of high school graduates are reading at an 8th grade level or below
Among black students, the number is 85%.
Over half of college students take at least one remedial course.
Why are majors like Gender Studies, Cultural Studies and Ethnic Studies becoming so popular? These degree programs require zero analytical skills. Its the same reason the 'Education' major was created.
60% of the football and basketball teams at the University of North Carolina, a public ivy , read at a 4th grade - 8th grade level (10% are lower).
Outcomes: 1 in 3 college graduates hold a job that does not even require a high school diploma.
Your OP illustrates perfectly why the Prog/Dims are wanting debt forgiveness for college loans. The biggest bubble waiting to tank the economy is young adults who have racked up nearly 1.5 trillion in student loan debt. Many can't find a job using the degree they dropped $50-100k on and now they're working at a job that didn't require a degree. Many are making less than $40k a year struggling to pay their bills but they still bought that new car.
Household debt is approaching the same level it was before the financial crisis of 2008/2009, so it won't be solely a real estate collapse this time, it'll be a combination of college debt, auto loan debt, real estate and frivolous purchases that are setting up for another collapse of some sort.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 8:42 pm to starsandstripes
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All of this is the fault of the Ivy League. For decades they have produced massive grade inflation. It's one thing to see two candidates, one from Univ of Mich and the other Yale, but when the Yale student has honors, Suma this and Magna that - it really tips the scales. This gives Ivy grads an advantage out there, which is what the Ivies need.
Tucker ran a segment on this last week. The most common grade in college is an A.
This practice has spilled down, all the way to high schools now. Lot of idiots walking around with 4.2 GPA in high school.
It's pretty sad that we can't even trust educators to hand out honest grades any longer.
I watched Tucker's segment, it basically confirmed what many of us have concluded. Over the past 30 years college costs have been hyper inflated by government loans/money while the degrees (excluding STEM) are worth less and less. When I was in high school you took the equivalence of an ACT/SAT and the counselor pretty much told ya if you should go occupational or college, now every high school student is encouraged to go to college.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 8:55 pm to anc
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Why are majors like Gender Studies, Cultural Studies and Ethnic Studies becoming so popular? T
they don't require calculus
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