re: Earth is billions of years old

Climate change was happening before we walked the planet but go ahead and drive your electric car if it makes you feel better.

Well if McDonalds didn't switch from foam to cardboard containers we would have all been dead in 12 years. Only more taxes can save us.

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And they do have some good arguments, but claiming 30-100 of data is certainly not one.

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Yeah, this is an absurdly entertaining new one.

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Exhibit #146764478 The left can’t meme

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We know that the North Pole used to be a jungle, and once ice covered most of U.S.

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I don't know if this is correct as most of the north pole area is underwater but I get your point. Also consider that areas of North America were once situated at the equator. So not only does climate change but continents drift. It'll blow your mind to ponder all of this.

Ice ages come and go. Did man cause them?

Does man control the Sun and its solar activity?

Do we control cloud cover or rain?

How about volcanic eruptions that spew debris in the air?

Does man control the distance the earth is from the Sun while it orbits it?

Do we control Earth's axis?

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Yet the crazy left will have you believe that somehow MAN can not only control the temperature of the earth, BUT SOMEHOW WE CAN REVERSE OR STOP CLIMATE CHANGE! IF ONLY WE GIVE MONEY TO GOVERNMENT! HA!

HOW STUPID DO THEY THINK WE ARE?

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We have thousands of years of tree ring samples and 100 of thousands in ice core. BTW: Your making climate deniers look silly. And they do have some good arguments, but claiming 30-100 of data is certainly not one.

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What dumbass downvoted this? They also have cores in swamps, oceans, etc.

The ignorance on this board has become ridiculous.

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We have nothing to compare our modern day climate data to other than speculation and “good guesses”.

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And the good guesses by our local climatologists is only good for tomorrow. More than 2 days out they are usually wrong. And here in Shreveport it's worse. Our TV weather guy tells you how to dress:

'Tomorrow morning will be 50 so you'll need a light jacket and a cup of hot coffee. There's a 30% chance of rain so be sure to take along an umbrella. Then the after noon high will be 72 and sunny so don't forget the sunscreen if you're going to be out in the yard.'

My problems with the whole "CO2 is going to kill us thing" are thus

1. No it's not. Almost every creature alive today evolved when the world was quite a bit warmer and CO2 concentrations were higher. The default state of Earth is very warm with little to no glaciation or polar ice.
2. Cold poses a much, much greater to life in general than warmth. The idea that getting slightly warmer with higher CO2 concentration is going to cause famines and the like is just dumb. The farmable zone just migrates North and South like it has in the past, and higher CO2 helps plants how more abundantly, crop yields etc. They pump that shite into greenhouses.
3. The earth has experienced ice ages with CO2 levels 12x what they are now, so obviously none of this is as simple as it's being portrayed. CO2 is a very weak green house gas with only 3 narrow absorption wavelengths. Humans and most animals thrive in warmer temps.
4. 99.99% of people who swear by man made climate change catastrophe caused by CO2 have no idea about the physics of how CO2 causes heat to be retained. The brutal ignorance is widespread
5. It draws all the attention away from actual environmental and conservation issues such as deforestation, chemical and plastic pollution, etc etc.
6. Absolutely nothing that has been proposed, even things costing the West literally trillions of dollars, is going to do one single god damn thing about it
5. The computer models that all these predictions are based on (which continually are wrong in their predictions btw) are so vulnerable to confirmation bias and manipulation. Half of the 'data points' in these models are extrapolated from the models themselves and then inserted back in as true data points, because temperature sensor coverage is actually getting worse not better. Meanwhile the best method we have for getting temp baseline, satellite measurements, stubbornly show much less warming. The other half of the data, the historical data, gets so massaged and manipulated that the raw data cyclical temp trend gets turned into what they show us now.

So, just a few issues