re: Earth is billions of years old

Why do libs get so butthurt about climate change skepticism? Everyone was on board until scientists got caught fudging data, grant chasing, and profiteering off of the ensuing hysteria.

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We have thousands of years of tree ring samples and 100 of thousands in ice core. BTW: Your making climate deniers look silly. And they do have some good arguments, but claiming 30-100 of data is certainly not one.


What dumbass downvoted this? They also have cores in swamps, oceans, etc.

The ignorance on this board has become ridiculous.

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Those samples don't take into account all the other possible global factors at the time.

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There are plenty of Conservatives who consider themselves stewards of this planet and wish to do the best for Mother Nature. The inability to get real, honest truth about the environment because everything has to have a political slant is beyond infuriating.

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This is true.

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Exhibit #95847352536448594837: the Right hates & fears science.

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Coming from the party of more than 2 genders and thinks that a baby with a heartbeat in the womb isn’t a living thing.

We are not denying the climate change, btw. We are merely saying humans have a minimal effect on it, and other factors such as solar activity have more to do with it.

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Sure. But it's not difficult to conceptualize that reducing emissions is definitely a good thing whether you believe in climate change or not. It's not like CO2 is the only thing being emitted

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No doubt. That's why I hate the hucksters who hijacked the cause and politicized everything just to try and profit from it

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Sure. But it's not difficult to conceptualize that reducing emissions is definitely a good thing whether you believe in climate change or not.

It's not like CO2 is the only thing being emitted

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depends on if you like glaciers covering half of the Continental us and all of Canada. We are still in the middle of an ice age, just an interglacial period, and when the Earth decides to freeze up again we might be glad of a few extra degrees from CO2. Also, we are so much closer to the levels of CO2 below which plant like suffocates than we are to levels where it could cause us harm. The relationship between CO2 levels and temperature rise are logarithmic, not linear. So there is a finite amount of warming that co2 can cause. But if we go much lower than it got in the little ice age period you are going to get widespread plant extinction, then we really are fricked

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I know absolutely NOBODY who holds that position - do you??

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I don't either, but there are people who believe the Earth is flat, so......

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Oil is mostly derived not from plants as we would think of but from algae.

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So, it's renewable and organic...sweet

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What is your take on the proposition that increased level of CO2 is a RESULT of warmer temperatures rather than a CAUSE of rising temperature??

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I'm going to be honest, I don't know the answer. One thing to consider is that CO2 is taken from the air and fixed and stabilized into plant matter and into the shell material of corals, snails, oysters, clams and similar marine animals. If the climate warms because of CO2 emissions it's conceivable that forests proliferate as will coral reefs and other animals with calcitic shells. The earth has a way to manipulate these issues (let's hope). But I'm speculating here and again, Mother Earth doesn't give a rat's azz about whether humans are here or not. Time will continue with or without us. I'm not trying to be depressing but .....

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There are certainly people who disagree with increased MPG requirements are there not?

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Yes because I prefer driving in a truck that is not made out of tin foil...

Besides, it is pretty much proven that most pollution from cars comes from about 10% of all the vehicle...changing the CAFE standards isn't going to prevent the end of times...