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re: Do people still believe that WTC 7 was NOT a planned demolition?

Posted on 9/11/24 at 10:51 am to
Posted by Kreg Jennings
Parts Unknown
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 10:51 am to

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GumboPot

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Do people still believe that WTC 7 was NOT a planned demolition?


My, my the crazies are out and about on the Poli Board the last 24 hours
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
2655 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 11:16 am to
Anybody seeing a 757 here?

IG link
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23781 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 11:25 am to
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It did not collapse from fire, it was damaged when Tower 1 fell. In the pictures below, you can see some of the damage to Building 7 as well as damage to other buildings from the collapse of Tower 1. In the bottom picture, you can see damage at the base of building 7.

If they needed building 7 removed that badly, they would have just had another plane flown into it


Your explanation isn't more convincing than the information and videos posted and linked in this thread.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167386 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 11:27 am to
What year were you born? Internet crazies 30 years ago, reported seeing black helo's, flying low at tree lines.

Oh noes, look! they are real

The old time crazies were always on the edge of their seats declaring MARTIAL LAW IS coming and the frogs are turned gay with atrazine.

Worse than martial law has happened with covid mandates & Governor Walz setting up a hotline to tattle on neighbors if they breathed in their backyards.

Some theories were out there (Alex Jones) but look around you. We have a wanna be President wanting those that oppose her and Biden: shut down, jailed, censored at the least.

There was a time that the media actually did investigative reporting.

Who is crazy now?

People so indoctrinated they worry more about killing a baby and choosing it's gender at 3: over basic wanton needs of jobs and being able to eat and pay furnace bills in the winter?

Posted by roll to victory
Hoover, AL
Member since Aug 2018
1669 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 11:27 am to
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Here’s my question: why did they blow it up? The motive I don’t understand.


Was it brought down because 7 was a staging area for the twin towers collapse being that the CIA and other govt units had offices there planning the larger attack. I think that's the bigger question?
This post was edited on 9/11/24 at 3:21 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93290 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 11:30 am to
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They refuse to believe their own eyes and it's not even magic.
it was another plane! it was the jet fuel leaking underneath the building!

why are you conspiracy theorists so concerned about this building?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28133 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 11:40 am to
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One column? Sure. Two simultaneously? Doubtful. 81 columns? Impossible.


Not only is it possible it's almost inevitable. Once one column buckles the others are all but certain to fail the same way if that schematic is accurate.
Posted by Lark225
Member since Mar 2019
1801 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 11:41 am to
There are powerful people in the world that can and will pay to make things go away if you talk(this includes family members and friends)
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10082 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 11:45 am to
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There is no logical explanation for why "they" would blow up WTC7. We know that airplanes flew into The Towers. We know that WTC7 was burning for hours. It's more logical that the steel supports for WTC7 failed due to hours of exposure to fire.



That’s why the towers fell too, but it wasn’t hours, as the intimescent foam sprayed on exposed structural steel was blown away when a fully loaded jetliner crashed into it, exposing that steel to fire.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7662 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 11:52 am to
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why are you conspiracy theorists so concerned about this building?


"Conspiracy Theorist" is not the insult it might have once been. CT only arise when there are holes in the "official story",



Even the fragile wingtips pass through the outer steel skin.
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2023
2957 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 11:56 am to
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I guess we'll just ignore the structural weaknesses caused by two of the biggest buildings in the world collapsing next door and taking gouges out of WTC 7.


Careful, they'll claim you're part of MKUltra sent to prevent people from finding out that Aliens built the pyramids.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:13 pm to
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why are you conspiracy theorists so concerned about this building?



I have not overtly proposed a conspiracy. I just want a logical explanation for Building 7 collapse besides what I see and hear in video versus the government and blue-anon theory of what happened. They are not congruent.

I read the NIST report several years ago and I remember it being woefully insufficient. The finite element model cobbled together to simulate the free fall collapse omits many structural components such as stiffeners, structural steel shear studs and steel connection plates in their analysis. And get this, NIST won't even release the finite element model for peer review. Just take their word for it.

With that said, the evidence overwhelmingly points to a conspiracy that we may never know the full nature of.
Posted by themunch
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71939 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:13 pm to
You sir are a blooming idiot to think its all done by the government to create war.

They had already made plans for war on Iraq. It had been done already.
This post was edited on 9/11/24 at 12:16 pm
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:17 pm to
besides the significant amount of damage below level ground I dont know either.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93290 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:17 pm to
i was being sarcastic

i haven't heard ANY plausible explanation for WTC7's inexplicable implosion.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
16726 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:17 pm to
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Here’s my question: why did they blow it up? The motive I don’t understand.


I've watched every video - Every hoax video - every BS conspiracy theory on this garbage. Here is the conclusion - Two Big planes full of jett fuel flew into the twin towers - When the debris fell from the towers it hit all of the surrounding facilities and caused massive fires and damage - WTC 7 took significant structural damage from that - and went down as well. There was also a bank beside of the twin towers that went down. Collateral damage


Now, if you don't believe the planes took down the towers - Then that's a separate conspiracy theory that requires even less brain cells.


Now, the real truth of the matter is - How did these men get into our country, fly our planes , get into flying classes in our own country - without anyone raising a red flag.......
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:18 pm to
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One column? Sure. Two simultaneously? Doubtful. 81 columns? Impossible.



Not only is it possible it's almost inevitable. Once one column buckles the others are all but certain to fail the same way if that schematic is accurate.



Demolition contractors should just ignite abandoned office furniture and printing paper at the bottom of buildings to be demolished instead of using professional charges and months of building prep. It's apparently a novel, cheap and effective way to demolish structural steel buildings. Of all the consequences that have come out of 911 who would have thunk that a new business model for demolition contractors would have been born?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:22 pm to
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I guess we'll just ignore the structural weaknesses


Any structural weakness described like the WTC antenna hitting Building 7 is insufficient for subsequent free fall collapse.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:28 pm to
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You sir are a blooming idiot to think its all done by the government to create war.


I did not make this assertion. I'm open to motivations and I realize different people may have had different motivations. My contention is 911 was pulled off by foreign intelligence pastying Saudi terrorist to fly planes into the buildings. I don't think many U.S. government officials were involved and if they were it's very few. IMO 99.9% of government actors behaved rationally and with good intentions to 911.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:33 pm to
Structurally is, if the foundation was rocked it might cause the fall of the structure. Has anyone calculated the force of the falling twin towers had on the surrounding foundational structuring? That might be interesting.
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