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re: Do people still believe that WTC 7 was NOT a planned demolition?

Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:07 pm to
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Pretty dumb, huh?
You misspelled “most plausible explanation” really bad.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:08 pm to
I would be more concerned about structural integrity due to the collapsing buildings and the underground foundational work that supports most of those towers. Subways and other tunnelings.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:08 pm to
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Good story but zero math to back it up

None required. I’m sorry you can’t do simple geometry or load paths.


Maybe that's why Building 7 free fall collapsed. It was engineered with feelings.
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:11 pm to
You do know they went after the foundations the first time right.
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:11 pm to
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Maybe that's why Building 7 free fall collapsed. It was engineered with feelings.
Draw a dot. Then a square around it. Count the corners. Do it on each side. It literally something. 3rd grader can do, if they aren’t too busy eating the crayons.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:11 pm to
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Thermite is commonly used in specialist welding applications

Like this?


Yes. Welding is one common use.

What is the ignition temperature of thermite?

Why can it burn without an external oxygen source?

What temperature does thermite burn?

What physical factors can increase the temperature of a thermite reaction?
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:12 pm to
ok show me

You asked simply why would there be traces of this. I gave you one.
This post was edited on 9/11/24 at 1:13 pm
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:14 pm to
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You do know they went after the foundations the first time right.


I do. In 1993 IIRC. They tried to blow one of the the center columns. I think this is picture of one after one of the building collapsed:

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Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:16 pm to
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They refuse to believe their own eyes and it's not even magic.








Posted by themunch
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:20 pm to
What is the point of Tower 7?
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:21 pm to
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You asked simply why would there be traces of this.


To melt steel.

Thermite burns around 3700-4500 degrees.

Chemical fire gets hotter with a higher concentration oxygen source. There is very little oxygen inside of a burning building. The fire would be very orange. A cool fire. A smoldering fire. Thermite is a mixture of aluminum and iron oxides. It contains it's own oxygen source. Thus the reason it burns so hot. The smaller the thermotic material the more surface area the hotter and quicker it burns. Thermite has an ignition temperature of approximately 700 degrees F. It's hard to start but once started it says lit. Water cannot extinguish it. It has to burn out.


There is no reason for thermatic material to have been found at the WTC site. None. Zero reason.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:22 pm to


We know exactly why this collapsed.
Posted by David_DJS
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:26 pm to
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I didn’t hear about Building 7 until I was 23, a good decade after the attack. I guarantee 80% of people have no idea three towers collapsed that day. So it’s not that.

80% of people would have difficulty finding Manhattan on a map.

It's not surprising a then 13 yo may not have been fully aware of all that happened on 9/11.
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:28 pm to
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We know exactly why this collapsed.


But look at how it collapsed.
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:29 pm to
Are they putting this in car batteries? You cant put that shite out either.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:34 pm to
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But look at how it collapsed.


The rebar in the concrete beam corroded to the point were they lost their structural integrity in tension and snaped. Once they failed it exposed the entire parking lot space below the building to the building above it. The building collapsed into that space.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:35 pm to
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I do not follow what the assertion is here? We blew up an additional building because the towers had been hit?

Apparently, there was a CIA office and they needed to wipe the computers. Better to bring in an demolition crew because the IT guys couldn't be kept quiet.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:36 pm to
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Maximum carnage to get the Patriot Act ushered in.


I didn’t hear about Building 7 until I was 23, a good decade after the attack. I guarantee 80% of people have no idea three towers collapsed that day. So it’s not that.


I just read over 14k people were evacuated before the collapses. The S tower collapsed first though it's was the second one hit. It is theorized this happened cause it was struck lower than the N tower. It has more weight above the weakened area. Imagine if the Towers had been hit only 30 floors up. Likely would have come down within a couple of minutes or maybe instantly.
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:37 pm to
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The building collapsed into that space.


Who pre-cut the beams on a diagonal?
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:41 pm to
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Are they putting this in car batteries? You cant put that shite out either.


Right. Lithium batteries are usually made of lithium oxides. I would have to look up the ignition temperature of these lithium oxides but once they start they are hard to put out. There are some fire extinguishers designed to put out these fires but I would have to look it up.



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