re: Director of National Counterterrorism resigns due to Iran conflict

Oh my, you do have the childlike faith. Bless your heart.

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How about the JCOS Chair Gen. Dan Caine?

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In before “Dan Cuck” from the Trump-firsters.

It’s amazing (and frustrating) to watch how people will justify whatever he does, no matter how much it conflicts with what he said in the past.

(This is where I get called a leftist, which would be laughed out of the room by anybody who actually knows me.)

The MAGA don't want integrity, they want obedience and loyalty to their resentment and retribution.

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Nobody with any info regarding the available intelligence believes that we were under an imminent threat. The halfhearted congressional briefings were not convincing in the least…

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Iran obviously knew our traditional justification is to wait for evidence of being an imminent threat or as retaliation to an overt and highly deadly act. It wasn’t just us, it was the same justification embraced by the rest of the world, except Russia.

Iran also knew that they were getting away with the proxy model of using useful idiot factions of pawns with grievances served as a successful distraction. Under that model they could inflict damage and death while also fueling growth of other factions while they continued to pursue the ultimate weapons.

They knew that once they obtained a nuclear weapon and long range ballistic missiles, they would become untouchable.

They also knew that as long as they maintained the perception of not being an imminent threat, they would likely continue to be free to stockpile and develop advanced weaponry up to and include nuclear weapons. Most world leaders as they saw it would not have the balls to stop them because such an endeavor would not likely carry much support in the global community (due to traditional justifications for “pre-emptive” military action.

We had a long line of presidents and leaders who knew this was Iran’s strategy and none were willing to risk political capital to do what must be done. Until a non-traditional politician who doesn’t give a shite about political capital came along.

Which makes it wild people want to destroy his character because he isn't Trump first or "Team Trump"

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He’s right. All of the “greatest ally” people will deny it but we absolutely went to war because Israel told us to

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That’s not what his letter said. It said Israel lobbied us to do it and implied that they tricked us into it. That is very different from “told us to”.

The rightness or wrongness of this war will be determined by two things, one of which we might never truly know. They are: How likely was Iran to develop a nuclear tipped missile in the next five years or so? And how painful will this war be for America?

The first of those will never be known, with certainty, by most US citizens. The second will play out over the next few months. I’ve got my popcorn, and I think my team is going to win.

To be clear, I think the root of the idea - that Israel would push us into conflicts that serve their interests with less than truthful motives and information - is probably true.

I just don't really think we go in with eyes shut. I think we know Israel's game pretty well.

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To be clear, I think the root of the idea - that Israel would push us into conflicts that serve their interests with less than truthful motives and information - is probably true.

I just don't really think we go in with eyes shut. I think we know Israel's game pretty well.

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Agreed.

But Israel's game likely includes Kompromat and Bribery... which short circuits American decision making... This is my concern.

So he did not know anything about sleeper cells in the US that came in under FJB? Seems like a Counterterrorism guy would know something about that. How about the constant pain the proxy groups Iran funded? I don't know about the timing because this should have been done years ago.

Guess he missed the part where Iran has been directly responsible for thousands of American deaths.