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re: DEI brainwashing is working on younger generations

Posted on 10/29/23 at 10:00 pm to
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 10/29/23 at 10:00 pm to
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If the physician is younger than 40 ensure he is a white male. You know he had to work twice as hard to earn his degree that the others.

Oh the plight of the young white male
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6571 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 10:17 pm to
I'm having a hard time refraining from calling you lefties bad names at the beginning of posts.

This is well documented, across many industries, including the medical and aviation industries, and the government entities that regulate them. I only use this example because it recently popped up again in the last two days.

I don't care if you're a fuchsia midget who identifies as a beer can. Be the best at what you do, you'll get the job. Could we just stop there? You know, content of the character style?
Posted by Billions
Member since Oct 2023
270 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 10:27 pm to
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Oh the plight of the young white male

You say this as if it isn't dead on fact.

Young white males are considered completely legitimate targets for bigotry from all corners of the left, the media, and politicians. It's not even arguable otherwise.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10829 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 10:55 pm to
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Are you afraid of your daughter competing against diverse groups of people or something?


I’d argue that homogenous groups excel in academics in comparison to forced diversity DEI groups. Be glad she didn’t go to school with her hombre
Posted by BigTx
Member since Aug 2021
535 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 11:22 pm to
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Young white males are considered completely legitimate targets for bigotry from all corners of the left, the media, and politicians. It's not even arguable otherwise.

I hear these claims all the time but I don’t believe it. I suppose it gives you somebody to blame, so carry on if it helps you sleep at night.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124653 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 4:42 am to
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Women have been getting Democrats elected, and hence their agenda, for over a hundred years.
That was not the critique. You are addressing a stereotype.

The post I responded to jumped the shark and assumed his liberal WF stereotype must apply to this individual as she's a WF. Given the facts here, that is an unfounded assumption. Unfounded doesn't mean she's not AOC personified. It means there is no basis for the conclusion, given what was posted.

What are the FACTS here?
(1) An Hispanic girl addressed in the OP scored well enough to qualify for interviews in the vast majority of OB/Gyn residencies, regardless of skin color. So her acceptance for a number of interviews would be expected.
(2) The surprise is not the number of interviews the Hispanic friend received. The surprise here is the number of turndowns the OP's daughter got, given her USMLE test score.
(3) The fields in medicine which specifically attract/demand high-end ClassRank/TestScores tend to be lucrative procedural specialties which are less call laden.
(4) OB is heavily call laden. Meaning that in a busy practice, you'll often spend a night of call at the hospital, instead of at home. Translation: There aren't a plethora of >265 USLME candidates applying.
(5) NO ONE! and I mean NO ONE! running an OB/Gyn Residency is going to turn down an applicant with a 275 USLME for an effing INTERVIEW because of her skin color! That is not happening. There is something else at play.

It is a virtual certainty the OP's daughter knows all of the above. So when her father went to the DEI premise, she corrected him.

Let's be crystal clear, DEI is a part of med school and, in some instances, residency selection. There simply is not evidence the OP situation is one of those circumstances.
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4746 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 4:44 am to
There is no entity that verifies ethnicity. Even if there was there is no way they can deny your truth.

White people can blow this whole thing up by simply checking AA or Hispanic on the box and nobody will say a damn thing.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124653 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 4:44 am to
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I hear these claims all the time but I don’t believe it.
Then you're a simpleton fool.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32514 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 5:47 am to
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My daughter went to the University of Texas. I got mad and cursed DEI but my daughter got mad at me for even suggesting that. Kids are taught to just accept it.
And your daughter holds an advantage over a white male. No one followed the lawsuits against Harvard and UNC decided by the SCOTUS. Any type of affirmative action guarantees a watered down product. Not sure how you break the mold when it's been deemed against the law over and over.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/30/23 at 6:01 am to
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I hear these claims all the time but I don’t believe it.



Let's game out a scenario.

You have 2 candidates. Both went to the same college, both have the same major, both have the same GPA, both have similar extra curricular activities.

Both apply for jobs with a fortune 500 company. One is a white guy. The other a black guy.

Is there any doubt who gets the offer?

You know the answer.

We all know.
This post was edited on 10/30/23 at 12:37 pm
Posted by BigTx
Member since Aug 2021
535 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 7:01 am to
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Is there any doubt who gets the offer?

I get your scenario and I understand that when there are two equal candidates, a choice must be made. I think it's comical that you think the black candidate is chosen every time. That is certainly not what I've observed in real life.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 7:09 am to
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Oh the plight of the young white male


You just admitted you approve of racism as long as it's the type of racism that your side approves of.

That still makes you a racist, you POS..
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124653 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 7:17 am to
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That is certainly not what I've observed in real life.
Are you on a med school or medical residency selection board or directly exposed to the process in some way?
Posted by BigTx
Member since Aug 2021
535 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 7:20 am to
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Are you on a med school or medical residency selection board or directly exposed to the process in some way?


No I'm not. The scenario described was a job in corporate America. That is the experience I was speaking from. I didn't intend to portray myself as part of the medical field.
This post was edited on 10/30/23 at 7:21 am
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/30/23 at 7:22 am to

I've been turned away twice personally.

I was also flat out told I was the wrong color.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124653 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 7:32 am to
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The scenario described was a job in corporate America.
"Corporate America" is a catch-all. e.g., DEI is inculcated into S&P500 firms ... every last one.

Now if by corporate America, you mean to include all Mom&Pop businesses, DEI is more of a non sequitur at that level.
Posted by BigTx
Member since Aug 2021
535 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 7:32 am to
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I've been turned away twice personally.
I was also flat out told I was the wrong color.

Well, that does suck. Especially if you were told that. I've certainly left interviews thinking that I wasn't given a fair shot because of the color of my skin, but have never been told anything like that. I'm not sure what I'd do in that situation. I hate that for you and acknowledge that is wrong. How do you fix a broken system? A system that was tilted to the advantage of some in the past and is now tilted to the advantage of others. Most of us probably agree.. just choose the best candidate for the job. But there are always other factors/agendas/goals at play that influence things and cause things to not be quite fair.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124653 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 7:34 am to
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How do you fix a broken system?
One thing is for certain, you don't fix a broken arm by breaking the other one.
Posted by BigTx
Member since Aug 2021
535 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 7:35 am to
Copy all.. S&P500 companies then. I was just describing my experience.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31635 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 7:37 am to
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DEI brainwashing is also working on NPCs


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How is a Hispanic getting more interviews inherent evidence of DEI?

Are you afraid of your daughter competing against diverse groups of people or something?
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