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re: Dad of trans Minnesota shooter was CIA/DOD Contractor…

Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:28 am to
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:28 am to
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Is he suggesting that Trump ordered his CIA/DOD guy to have his kid do this?


Not saying this is true….but do you really think the CIA operatives do only what the administration directs them to do? I know you’re dense but come on.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:31 am to
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I wasn't speaking of that irrelevancy.


JFC
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:35 am to
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JFC

There's evidence he didn't even consider himself trans by the shooting.

It's a largely irrelevant data point only being used by people trying to turn this into a partisan issue, which is a weird way to dance on the graves of children for online gotcha points.

The actual, relevant psychological issues started long before any trans stuff. If you read his writings, the trans stuff is basically not mentioned.

This is not the Nashville shooter, no matter how much people try to make it into that.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:39 am to
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This post was edited on 5/5/26 at 8:38 pm
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:39 am to
Man go away with your bullshite
Posted by boot
Member since Oct 2014
3416 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:43 am to
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The actual, relevant psychological issues started long before any trans stuff. If you read his writings, the trans stuff is basically not mentioned


If we’re serious as a nation about stopping school shootings, then it’s important to notate all patterns. It doesn’t matter how relevant we think they are. Trannies being involved in violent altercations is on the uptick. This is important information.
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 9:44 am
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70485 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:46 am to
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Bro, what happened to you?


I've never trusted the CIA. I've always been anti-FBI and anti-intelligence agencies. I was anti-war. anti-patriot act. and anti-FBI back when that made me a liberal. I've always enjoyed a good rabbit hole. I've always enjoyed them as a fun thought experiment even when I don't outright believe them.

I have seen things, experienced things, overheard things discussed by high level people which I was not supposed to hear. These experiences, while they don't confirm any specific theories we tend to discus here, lead me to believe that the conspiracy theories should never be fully dismissed outright, and that I should keep an open mind because people in our government are absolutely willing and able to commit incredibly horrific actions without consequence and notoriety to protect their own power.

If those individuals can do the things I have seen done with impunity, there is no reason why many of the things alleged by conspiracy theorists couldn't be at least theoretically plausible. As such, I choose to indulge in their speculations and explore their assertions rather than dismiss them outright and call them crazy.

I have simply seen too much which should not be true to outright dismiss that which is uncomfortable or uncouth to believe.
Posted by W2NOMO
Member since Jul 2025
2322 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:46 am to
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It's a largely irrelevant data point only being used by people trying to turn this into a partisan issue, which is a weird way to dance on the graves of children for online gotcha points.
lol.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476775 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:47 am to
What if I told you he had rejected the trans stuff by the time of the shooting, and only kept pretending to be trans to hide his plan?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70485 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:47 am to
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People like you Bob who deny the truth (pod people are among us) and act like you didn't hear the message (What is the frequency, Kenneth) or can't remember the password (Afghanistan bananastand) are the biggest threat to our Republic since Boy Bands.


Those boy bands are actually demons according to the current hit kids movie. More Hollywood predictive programing
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86171 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:51 am to
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boy bands are actually demons


Not to be vainglorious, but this has been the central organizing philosophical principle of Your Humble Pimpness for nearly three decades.



Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
9172 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:58 am to
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The dad offered his kid up as an MK ultra sacrifice?


Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70485 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:00 am to
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The 2020s has been the absolute golden age for conspiracy theorists.


Conspiracy theorists said that the government was using our electronic devices to spy on all of us without warrants: correct (the Patriot Act allows for this and the government has admitted to doing this following the release of the wikileaks files).

Conspiracy theorists said that there was a government conspiracy to frame and stop Donald Trump: correct (The Obama administration coordinated with the FBI, media outlets, and the Clinton campaign to manufacture a story then pressured media individuals to run it. They also used the allegations to spy on members of his campaign with FISA warrants, and that's just the tip of the ice berg).

Conspiracy theorists said that Covid was a government created and funded bioweapon released from a lab in China: correct (Fauci was running illegal gain of function research in Wuhan where they were actively making the covid virus)

Conspiracy theorists said that the government was actively targeting conservative business owners, influencers, and political organizers for tax audits, debanking, de-platform, and social media censorship: correct (the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau was working in league with the FBI and IRS to pressure private businesses to throttle services to disruptive individuals while the IRS actively targeted conservatives for audits and refused to approve their filings)

Conspiracy theorists said that it was the CIA/feds that were forcing diversity and trans stuff into everything: correct (USAID was funding it from the top down)

Conspiracy theorists claimed that the CIA was controlling the media and that many mainstream journalists and pundits were on their payroll: correct (USAID was paying the payroll for nearly every major news network)

Conspiracy theorists claimed that the government had the ability to manipulate weather: correct (see Dubai floods admittedly caused by cloud seeding)
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65427 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:16 am to
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conspire with shadowy government officials to plan a mass shooting at a farking school.
Do you know a lot about shadowy government officials and their ways? Enlighten us.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47575 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:20 am to
This dude is such a fricking clown.

Trans lifestyles ALONE made this kid 5X more likely to attempt suicide. As a parent, how are you not paying attention?
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55739 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:26 am to
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This dude is such a fricking clown.

Trans lifestyles ALONE made this kid 5X more likely to attempt suicide. As a parent, how are you not paying attention?


I doubt the CIA had anything to do with this Trans Terrorist's decision to execute his dirty deed. The Trans Terrorist's parents and doctors could be culpable in this matter.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47575 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:34 am to
I don’t think so either. I’m just a little surprised this issue never came up in a DOJ background check.

It signals a lack of a paper trail around this kids mental health journey, which suggests his parents ignored it or thought affirming was the cure. Slotard thinks they had no idea that their trans, Nazi-saluting, weirdo son (who was suspended in 7th grade for threatening a school shooting) was struggling with mental health issues.
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 10:49 am
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8610 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:37 am to
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What if I told you he had rejected the trans stuff by the time of the shooting, and only kept pretending to be trans to hide his plan?


What in the actual frick? More independent investigating by you, I see.

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and only kept pretending to be trans to hide his plan?


And you have the nerve to talk about people with conspiracy theories?


Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71137 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:40 am to
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James Westman, father of the Minnesota Catholic Church shooter, has reportedly been a Senior Application Developer at Esri for 29 years.

Esri (Environmental Systems Research Institute, Inc.) is a global leader in geographic information system (GIS) software, web GIS, and geodatabase management. Its ArcGIS software is used by many U.S. government agencies, including intelligence community members like the CIA. Esri works closely with the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) to support the IC GIS Portal, a platform that the CIA and other agencies rely on for geospatial intelligence (GEOINT) tasks.

Esri is mostly used to plan trails in parks for the government…


If this is Alex's standard, I know an entire industry of CIA operatives.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109272 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:41 am to
Guess we have the idea for our next season of The Terminal List.
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