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re: Catholic Cardinal declares the Pope is perfect like Jesus
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:10 am to KiwiHead
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:10 am to KiwiHead
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Please point out where Francis was any different doctrinally or morally overall
Okay remember you asked me for evidence - for starters how about Bergoglio's decision to bless gay unions (let's not fool ourselves - he blessed gay marriage).
Now please be specific. Has Pope Leo moved to end the blessing of gay union (aka gay marriage)? (Yes or No)
*[cricketts]*
This post was edited on 4/18/26 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:11 am to bbvdd
A Pope’s “infallibility” is intended to be limited to faith and morals according to Roman Catholic teaching.
That infallibility is not extended to cover political opinions or other matters.
That infallibility is not extended to cover political opinions or other matters.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:15 am to Great Plains Drifter
The pope infallible? The same guy who was going to Chicago Cubs baseball games a couple years ago?
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:15 am to bbvdd
Peter and the other disciples were there when Christ told the Pharisees to render unto Caesar.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:17 am to Ailsa
This is basically a bunch of claims stacked together, but once you actually line them up with Scripture and history, they don’t hold up.
“Christ is the only mediator” yeah, absolutely. Catholics agree with that (1 Timothy 2:5). But you’re mixing up mediation with intercession. The Bible literally tells Christians to pray for each other (1 Timothy 2:1, James 5:16). When you ask someone to pray for you, you’re not replacing Christ. Same thing with the saints, it’s asking for prayer, not competing with Jesus.
“Graven images” is another common misunderstanding. The commandment is against idolatry, not making images at all. Otherwise God contradicts Himself when He commands images like the cherubim on the Ark (Exodus 25:18) or the bronze serpent (Numbers 21:8). The issue isn’t having images, it’s worshiping them as gods, which Catholics don’t do.
The whole “robes, decorations, crowns” thing doesn’t really work either. Go read the Old Testament, the worship God set up was full of vestments, gold, incense, all of it (Exodus 28, 1 Kings 6). So if that’s automatically bad, then you’re saying God designed bad worship.
“Vain repetition” in Matthew 6 isn’t about repeating prayers, it’s about empty, mindless babbling. Jesus Himself repeats prayers (Matthew 26:44), and heaven is literally described as repeating the same praise over and over (Revelation 4:8). So repetition clearly isn’t the issue.
Confession is actually one of the clearest points. Jesus gives the apostles authority to forgive sins in John 20:23, “whose sins you forgive are forgiven.” That’s not vague. And James 5:16 says to confess your sins to one another. So going to a priest isn’t replacing God, it’s using what Christ set up.
And the “pray only to God” idea ignores what Scripture shows about heaven. In Revelation 5:8, the saints are presenting prayers to God. Again, that’s intercession, not competition with God.
So the pattern here is pretty obvious to anyone with a brain in the ability of coherent thought. You’re pulling verses out on their own and running with one interpretation, even when other parts of the Bible clearly add more context. If your interpretation leads you to reject things Christians have believed since the early Church, and it clashes with other parts of Scripture, why assume your reading is the right one?
“Christ is the only mediator” yeah, absolutely. Catholics agree with that (1 Timothy 2:5). But you’re mixing up mediation with intercession. The Bible literally tells Christians to pray for each other (1 Timothy 2:1, James 5:16). When you ask someone to pray for you, you’re not replacing Christ. Same thing with the saints, it’s asking for prayer, not competing with Jesus.
“Graven images” is another common misunderstanding. The commandment is against idolatry, not making images at all. Otherwise God contradicts Himself when He commands images like the cherubim on the Ark (Exodus 25:18) or the bronze serpent (Numbers 21:8). The issue isn’t having images, it’s worshiping them as gods, which Catholics don’t do.
The whole “robes, decorations, crowns” thing doesn’t really work either. Go read the Old Testament, the worship God set up was full of vestments, gold, incense, all of it (Exodus 28, 1 Kings 6). So if that’s automatically bad, then you’re saying God designed bad worship.
“Vain repetition” in Matthew 6 isn’t about repeating prayers, it’s about empty, mindless babbling. Jesus Himself repeats prayers (Matthew 26:44), and heaven is literally described as repeating the same praise over and over (Revelation 4:8). So repetition clearly isn’t the issue.
Confession is actually one of the clearest points. Jesus gives the apostles authority to forgive sins in John 20:23, “whose sins you forgive are forgiven.” That’s not vague. And James 5:16 says to confess your sins to one another. So going to a priest isn’t replacing God, it’s using what Christ set up.
And the “pray only to God” idea ignores what Scripture shows about heaven. In Revelation 5:8, the saints are presenting prayers to God. Again, that’s intercession, not competition with God.
So the pattern here is pretty obvious to anyone with a brain in the ability of coherent thought. You’re pulling verses out on their own and running with one interpretation, even when other parts of the Bible clearly add more context. If your interpretation leads you to reject things Christians have believed since the early Church, and it clashes with other parts of Scripture, why assume your reading is the right one?
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:21 am to KiwiHead
Did the dogma and doctrine in Catholicism involve priest in over 300 countries raping kids?
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:34 am to Flightnclouds
Wild that satanic forces would go after the Catholic Church huh?
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:35 am to METAL
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METAL
King James did remove many things out of the Bible that he did not agree with or want known but you are the one that is taking everything out of context.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:37 am to bbvdd
No one has that right?
You gonna try and jail people for criticizing the Pope?
You can eat a bag of dicks.
You gonna try and jail people for criticizing the Pope?
You can eat a bag of dicks.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:43 am to bbvdd
The teachings I listen to is the pope is fallible and is a sinner as was Peter.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:46 am to remaster916
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The Pope position is a joke. I say get rid of it and turn Vatican City into a museum. A relic of the past of when people actually thought the Pope position meant a damn.
If you think about it Christianity is a relic of the past as all that was written into scripture is roughly from a time 2000 years ago. Only faith will perpetuate Christianity.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:51 am to Flightnclouds
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Did the dogma and doctrine in Catholicism involve priest in over 300 countries raping kids?
Too bad men of faith today, the shepherds of the flock are more like Joel Osteen. Or a preacher from my youth who counseled a couple and then screwed the woman and divorced his wife. Many “men of God” sin.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:51 am to 9Fiddy
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Religious leaders have one directive. To follow and advance the spread of the teachings of Jesus Christ.
OK, but does anyone think Jesus wants murderous moslems to have nuclear weapons? Does Jesus want men to be schlonging each others’ turd channels? Does He want babies to be killed in the womb? Does He want men to cut off their dicks and become women?
Looks like Jesus really is a Republican (not the RINO or the cuck type)
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:53 am to bbvdd
Kinda exaggerated this a bit didn't you?
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:55 am to Ailsa
That’s just not historically accurate. King James didn’t remove books from the Bible. The 1611 King James Bible actually included those books, they were just placed in a separate section. Nothing was cut out there.
What happened later is Protestant publishers in the 1700s and 1800s started leaving those books out completely for cost and theological reasons. That wasn’t King James editing Scripture, it was later decisions by printers.
Also, the canon wasn’t decided in 1611. The Church had already recognized those books over a thousand years earlier at councils like Rome, Hippo, and Carthage. Those are the same books Catholics still have today.
So if anything, the real question is why later Protestants removed books that had been accepted for centuries… And on the “out of context” point, that goes both ways. If we’re talking context, then we have to read Scripture as a whole and how the early Church understood it, not just pull one verse and run with it.
What happened later is Protestant publishers in the 1700s and 1800s started leaving those books out completely for cost and theological reasons. That wasn’t King James editing Scripture, it was later decisions by printers.
Also, the canon wasn’t decided in 1611. The Church had already recognized those books over a thousand years earlier at councils like Rome, Hippo, and Carthage. Those are the same books Catholics still have today.
So if anything, the real question is why later Protestants removed books that had been accepted for centuries… And on the “out of context” point, that goes both ways. If we’re talking context, then we have to read Scripture as a whole and how the early Church understood it, not just pull one verse and run with it.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 11:01 am to bbvdd
I’ve lost a lot of respect for the pope. The Iranian regime is evil. They murdered tens of thousands of their own citizens in January. Why the heck is he defending them?
It’d be like the pope in the 40s defending Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany.
It’d be like the pope in the 40s defending Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany.
This post was edited on 4/18/26 at 11:04 am
Posted on 4/18/26 at 11:02 am to bbvdd
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faithfully follows the mission he received from Christ to bear witness to the Gospel of peace.
How is not speaking out against 40k plus people murdered in the streets bearing witness to the Gospel of peace?
What about all the Catholics being killed in Nigeria and Congo?
He’s not consistent in his messages.
It’s obvious there was a coordinated effort to attack Trump and turn Catholics away from him. Especially when the church in the USA is seeing record numbers of conservatives joining.
This post was edited on 4/18/26 at 11:42 am
Posted on 4/18/26 at 11:04 am to loogaroo
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It’s obvious there was a coordinated effort to attack Trump and turn Catholics away from him.
This. They are terrified of conservatives taking up more of the Christian vote after what happened to Charlie Kirk.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 11:25 am to KiwiHead
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Why does the Pope speaking out against your Idol trouble you so? Because it does, if you are gleeful because you think his tweets would keep the Pope up at night.
It doesn’t bother me at all. When you have a high ranking official in the church that claims that the pope can’t be criticized for what he says because he is from the bible (when he wasn’t) I have a huge issue with that.
The cardinal is putting the pope and his word on a level of God and Jesus.
The pope is an infallible man. Nothing more.
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