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re: Canada is really choosing to forgo trade and security with the USA for China

Posted on 1/18/26 at 9:35 am to
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
21823 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 9:35 am to
Unfortunately these people will never realize how lucky they are that the United States is the global hegemon. If it were China, Russia, or some muslim state, they'd all be permanently fricked. They're acting like petulant children and it's entirely appropriate that Trump treats them this way.
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
21823 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 9:36 am to
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I travelled to Vancouver, BC, a few years ago. There is a HUGE Asian population there.
There's a reason those people are in Canada now and not China. Carney seems to be unaware of this.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182456 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 9:40 am to
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Carney seems to be unaware of this.



Carney also seems to be forgetting how Chinese people f'd their real estate market because Canada made it a safe haven for wealthy Chinese people to get their money out of China. Many of those houses still sit vacant, while the Canadian rental situation is worse than in NYC





Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
4940 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 9:45 am to
They’re going to be in for a shock when we don’t let them.
Posted by Zahrim
McCamey Texas
Member since Mar 2009
8156 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 9:45 am to
and it is time to redo NORAD
Posted by Barkbowwow
Member since Nov 2025
494 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 9:47 am to
What's the tariff we would have to pay if we import Chinese cars manufactured in Canada?
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
14405 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 9:58 am to
When Canada decided to go “elbows up” and boycott American products like whiskey, I decided to boycott them.

I always check national origin of things I purchase to avoid China whenever possible. Now I add Canada.

Know what? The only Canadian product I purchased regularly purchased was Brunswick canned fish. Now I buy from Alaska, Poland, N Africa, and SE Asia.

I wish I could go more elbows up!
Posted by bignuss18
Member since Sep 2025
806 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 10:03 am to
Why would Canada trade with the most powerful economy in the world? This is really your question? You are so dumb, its legitimately frustrating to observe
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3996 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 10:04 am to
This is what happens when you jack up tariffs on countries, they go look for other nations to trade with.

For some reason this administration seems to want to run everybody off and remove the dollar as the world's reserve currency.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55751 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 10:07 am to
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Why would Canada seek arrangements with the U.S.? Trump is irrational. No one can rely on what he says. Ask the Iranian protesters Trump said he would protect.


Do you think Trump/the US should get into a kinetic confrontation with the Iranian regime? If you do then you are at odds with a lot of the MinneSomalia protestors, some are carrying signs that say the US should stay out of Iran's bidness.
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
3950 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 10:08 am to
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it’s their right. They are a sovereign nation and can trade with who they want.


No one is arguing this. We are however, free to call it stupid and petty because their politicians got their feelings hurt
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182456 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 10:12 am to
quote:

For some reason this administration seems to want to run everybody off a



Oh my gosh! Trump is abandoning all our allies who have been sucking off us like remoras for 80 years


quote:

and remove the dollar as the world's reserve currency.


Will never happen. Keep dreaming.


Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7963 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 10:21 am to
So prices in China are far lower, and shipping costs far higher.

Canada has refused to invest in new technology, they have high taxes.

It wont work without massive job losses.

This is like getting a face tattoo and a meth addiction after a breakup, it might make you feel good for a spiteful minute... but there will be consequences.
Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
19442 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 10:29 am to
We asked for this. The faux outrage toward Canada makes no sense.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477014 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 10:31 am to
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We asked for this. The faux outrage toward Canada makes no sense.


We start randomly and aggressively attacking our allies and they seek alternatives. I don't get the outrage, either.

Did people think they would just take it? Why?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182456 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 10:31 am to
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We start randomly and aggressively attacking


Asking for fair trade deals is random and aggressive?

Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
9920 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 10:37 am to
Canada loves and is full throttle towards “CCP-styled” capitalism.

Lots of western nation elites decided they really admired that “free market concept” with an authoritarian twist as a model.

We have plenty of politicians here in the U.S. who admire it too.
Posted by PT24-7
Member since Jul 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 10:40 am to
We are finding out we never had allies, we had dependents.

Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
8368 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 10:44 am to
We literally pushed canada into the arms of China. Did the same with Russia.

Idiotic foreign policy
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477014 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 10:49 am to
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Asking for fair trade deals is random and aggressive?


Even with your framing, it's not the goal, it's how we went about it.

There is a cost for being overly aggressive and acting outside the norms.
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