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re: Can We Agree with Sen. Kennedy that Deporting Garcia to ES was a Screw Up?

Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:17 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:17 pm to
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Can We Agree with Sen. Kennedy that Deporting Garcia to ES was a Screw Up?
Why?
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:17 pm to
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To move on, can we agree that the deportation to El Salvador was a mistake?

Why should we agree much less validate any argument to the contrary?

He arrived here illegally and remained here illegally.
Made no effort to become legal.
Once he was here, he embraced illegal behavior by joining MS-13
He met some skank that would have sex with him, knocked her up and promptly beat that mother of his devil seed aka:offspring.
He engaged in human trafficking, was caught, and ordered released by the Biden administration.
He joined a notorious drug trafficking and human trafficking gang and tattooed himself with insignia that ensured he would not be mistakenly killed by that ruthless drug trafficking and human trafficking gang that is a threat to civil behavior.

The basis for keeping him in the US was that the gang that ALLEGEDLY threatened his mother’s home based tortilla business in their home country remained a threat to his safety (why would they give a shite about that mother’s then 14 year old kid?) - but that little known gang has been imprisoned into a non-existence.

That “gang” that prioritized momma’s home based tortilla business is now almost fully imprisoned and no longer remains a threat to the son of home tortilla making momma.

frick that piece of shite. Keep him in his home country that wants him.

Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:17 pm to
Muh Maryland Man.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:18 pm to
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Correct. He was a freaking Rhodes Scholar. Acting the way he does is precisely one reason he's a clown.


So is bill Clinton and Maddow
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:18 pm to
Is this a serious post? In what way was it a screw up?
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:19 pm to
What was the screw up exactly?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:22 pm to
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Deporting wife beating terrorists is never a mistake . F you and your feelings .


I don't have any feelings about this. Really just curious if people really can't see the difference between "you can't deport him" and "you can't legally deport him to El Salvador because there is a valid order prohibiting his deportation to El Salvador."
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:22 pm to
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ICE could "mistakenly" determine that millions of illegal immigrants were members of TDA and the Administration could deport them TOMORROW without hearing.



Well as far as I'm concerned those that came in with no process are do the same amount to facilitate their exit. None.

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Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:23 pm to
The screw up was allowing the other judge to make a ruling that he could be deported, just not to El Salvador.

That's a bs ruling from the start unless you've got a list of countries willing to take in deported aliens that have nothing to do with them. The only country offering to do this as far as I know is... El Salvador.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:23 pm to
I don't know. In academia and in circles of people who think themselves as highly intelligent there is discrimination against southern accents. A lot of people with those accentsvhave learned to play the part of being a bumpkin to their own benefit.
If that is the case with him, i dont think it makes him a clown.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:24 pm to
Not even gonna read the thread... answer is "No".
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:26 pm to
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What was the screw up exactly?


There was an order by an immigration judge that prohibited Garcia’s deportation to El Salvador. Until that order was lifted, he could be deported...just not to El Salvador. By its own sworn admission, the Administration screwed up by deporting him to El Salvador without getting that "protective order" removed.

Posted by redneck hippie
Oklahoma
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:27 pm to
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You want to talk about the circus antics democrat elected officials engage in to be more relatable to their voters now?


Nope. Fair criticism.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:29 pm to
That withholding order is moot for a terrorist. Was he a terrorist before or after his deportation?
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:31 pm to
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There was an order by an immigration judge that prohibited Garcia’s deportation to El Salvador. Until that order was lifted, he could be deported...just not to El Salvador.


Where else do you, the judge, the court and supporters of his think he should be sent then? We sent him to his origin country.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:38 pm to
Nah
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:41 pm to
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Why?


To ground in reality discussions about what should be done to successfully and quickly deport MILLIONS of illegal aliens.

Personally, I would rather see the Administration say: "Yes, we screwed up. Sorry there's no way to fix it. If you remain in the United States illegally, you risk having the same thing happen to you. Our advice? If you're an illegal alien, leave now."

Instead, you have all thus squawking, ignoring the facts...and now pretending that Senator Kennedy is secretly in favor of illegal aliens, despite all evidence to the contrary.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:44 pm to
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Where else do you, the judge, the court and supporters of his think he should be sent then?


The Administration could have had the withholding order dissolved within a matter of hours or days (at the most). THEN they could have legally deported him to El Salvador.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127393 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:46 pm to
No, we do not. He already had two deportation orders in hand. He had six years to find suitable arrangements for him and his family. He took a chance and lost.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:48 pm to
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That withholding order is moot for a terrorist. Was he a terrorist before or after his deportation?


I know that's the legal theory, but no court has ever held that AND the Administration has never argued that in this case. It MIGHT be true, but no court has recognized that.

NOTE: that's different from the Alien Enemies Act, which doesn't apply to MS-13. I think under AEA, you would have a strong argument that the withholding order no longer protected him.
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