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re: Bannon talking about Uvalde killer getting money to buy guns/ammo from Mexican cartels.

Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:11 am to
Posted by TygerDurden
Member since Sep 2009
1956 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:11 am to
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local gun store employees are saying he purchased his guns and ammo with cartel money gained via human trafficking.


If this is true this story or narrative will get buried with the quickness by the DOJ, Homeland Security and the ever present mainstream media.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:11 am to
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Hummm? I wonder if the turd got any weapons from Eric Holder's Fast & Furious gun running fiasco?

Connect the dots. Follow the money.



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He legally purchased two AR platform rifles from a federally licensed gun store on two days: May 17 — just a day after his birthday — and May 20, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said, according to a briefing that state Sen. John Whitmire, chair of the Senate Criminal Justice Committee, received from state authorities late Tuesday. The gunman bought 375 rounds of 5.56-caliber ammunition on May 18.


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He brought only one of the rifles with him into the elementary school, one manufactured by the Georgia-based arms manufacturer Daniel Defense, according to the briefing, details of which Whitmire shared with The Texas Tribune. The other was left in the truck he crashed nearby.


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Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:14 am to
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Us gringos wouldn't catch on however. We don't speak Spanish and are not familiar with the culture.



Most of the gringos in STX speak Spanish, too.



There was a reason I said "culture" too.
Posted by SleepyJoe
Member since Apr 2022
451 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:30 am to
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Sure. There is absolutely no description of that guy that equates to coyote for cartels. You’re being played by the outrage machine





Let me guess. You know absolutely nothing about Uvalde or any other border town?
Posted by prplhze2000
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Member since Jan 2007
58213 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:38 am to
Why do you think the town spends 40% of budget on Poh-lice?


Its to deal with the immigrant crap.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37608 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:38 am to
You have to wonder how a kid who is reportedly basically abandoned by his parents...mom is a drug addict and Dad lives in a shack away from town gets an F250....those things ain't cheap even on the used market, and pays with cash for AR s and other weapons. He's 18. I could not come up with that much cash to walk around with until I was 45 at least and that would be from borrowing the money from a bank.

Not saying he's cartel, but that kind of activity should make authorities curious.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53735 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:40 am to
Member when Trump was insane for wanting to strike cartels? I member
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 10:58 am
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:41 am to
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How would they know?



He doesn't strike me as someone who was particularly intelligent. He may have said something. Uvalde is also a small enough town that people may "know".

There may be nothing to it but I would not rule it out. Cartels offer fast money.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26657 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:45 am to
How does the cartel win in that situation? This doesn't make sense
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41084 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:49 am to
A buddy of mine who lives in South Texas made an interesting FB post the other day. He said everyone talks about guns coming across the border from Mexico to the US and sold on the black market.

But in his opinion, the real story is the guns flowing from the US across the border to Mexico. I asked him to clarify as this did not make sense to me.

He said... cash comes from MX to US. US citizens are recruited to buy guns and ammo legally. Citizen keeps a cut for themselves, and sends the guns and ammo back across the border to the cartels. This usually happens in relatively small quantities.

Apparently it's pretty well known down there that this happens.

It's not unreasonable to think that the kid gets the cash, goes and buys guns and ammo, and instead of sending them back across the border... he decides to use them.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:50 am to
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How does the cartel win in that situation? This doesn't make sense



The implication is the killer was working for the cartel(s). Cartels pay better than Wendy's.

The cartel he was working for would be as culpable for his murders as much as any employer. No culpability. But that is not the point.

The point is, illegal activity that is allowed to thrive in southern border towns by this administration is allowing criminal activity to thrive.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 10:54 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110967 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:51 am to
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How does the cartel win in that situation? This doesn't make sense


Not that I'm "buying" the story here, but the OP is not necessarily suggesting that "the cartels" had him purchase the guns so he could shoot up the school.

I can see, however, situation where they might employ people on our side of the border to go make legal purchases for them, and this kid possibly took advantage of such a situation to get the guns for this reason.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55762 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:51 am to
If you're an American, doesn't matter if you're a rabid leftist or a America First patriot, and you're not watching War Rom at 9-11AM CST M-F and 4-5PM CST M-F and Saturday 9-11AM CST you ain't informed. I challenge anyone to listen for a couple of shows and refute the bulk of the information presented. Is there going to be some predictions from the War Room regulars that turns out not to be the case? Yes, the difference is the War Room regulars will admit they were wrong and not simply move like the Gaslight Media does to their next false narratives and lies.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:52 am to
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A buddy of mine who lives in South Texas made an interesting FB post the other day. He said everyone talks about guns coming across the border from Mexico to the US and sold on the black market.

But in his opinion, the real story is the guns flowing from the US across the border to Mexico. I asked him to clarify as this did not make sense to me.

He said... cash comes from MX to US. US citizens are recruited to buy guns and ammo legally. Citizen keeps a cut for themselves, and sends the guns and ammo back across the border to the cartels. This usually happens in relatively small quantities.

Apparently it's pretty well known down there that this happens.

It's not unreasonable to think that the kid gets the cash, goes and buys guns and ammo, and instead of sending them back across the border... he decides to use them.



This makes a lot of sense.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89820 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:52 am to
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Sure. There is absolutely no description of that guy that equates to coyote for cartels. You’re being played by the outrage machine.


Well id say its more likely his mon came here illegally and had an anchor baby. Most likely with the help of coyotes to get here in the first place.

Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26657 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:52 am to
Let me reword it.

If you are the cartel, why would shooting up an elementary school be beneficial to your business? Thats potential drug clients or potential traffickers/trafficked.

I could understand it if the elementary thing was a kidnapping gone wrong but it wasnt. So it doesnt make much sense to me.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26657 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:53 am to
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I can see, however, situation where they might employ people on our side of the border to go make legal purchases for them, and this kid possibly took advantage of such a situation to get the guns for this reason.


This is what I was missing. Thanks.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:54 am to
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There was a reason I said "culture" too.


Gringos in STX are part of the STX culture...that's why they speak spanish. These people have been living together for 100s of years.
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
12081 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:54 am to
Not defending what the cops in this situation did or did not do. But my initial thought as to why they did not go in was cartel motivated retaliation.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:57 am to
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Let me guess. You know absolutely nothing about Uvalde or any other border town?


It's not about Uvalde or its proximity to the border but about all descriptions of this guy.
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