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re: Angola Farm Line lawsuit will determine if forced prison labor is unconstitutional
Posted on 2/7/26 at 11:46 am to Y.A. Tittle
Posted on 2/7/26 at 11:46 am to Y.A. Tittle
Cubbies knows better. These men need to be watching tv for 18 hours a day and eating junk food.
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Posted on 2/7/26 at 11:47 am to 4cubbies
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That would certainly rehabilitate offenders.
Rehabilitation should be a happy side effect. Primary purpose is punishment.
Crime and Punishment…. not Crime and Self Improvement.
Posted on 2/7/26 at 11:49 am to 4cubbies
Next they'll be giving prisoners the right to vote. 
Posted on 2/7/26 at 11:50 am to 4cubbies
I thought all the farm hands were volunteers. You get to be outside and have purpose. I know I would volunteer.
Posted on 2/7/26 at 11:52 am to SloaneRanger
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Hard labor has been a thing in sentencing for a long time. Just more judicial activism.
Hard labor is what determines a felony in Louisiana. LaRS 14:2- “ ‘Felony’ is any crime for which an offender may be sentenced to death or imprisonment at hard labor.” If successful in this case, they’ll probably argue that any convicted felon should have their conviction overturned (and be allowed to vote Democrat).
Posted on 2/7/26 at 11:52 am to 4cubbies
Most prisons pay sub mininum wage. All prisons are giving you free room and board. You only have to pay for things in the prison store. When my dad was at Angola he said that most prisoners were happy to get out and work because sitting in a jail cell all day was boring as hell. Especially since there was no T.V. in those days. Angola also provided a softball league, basketball league and the annual prisoner rodeo.
Posted on 2/7/26 at 11:56 am to Zach
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When my dad was at Angola
Whoa
What’d he do?
Posted on 2/7/26 at 12:02 pm to 4cubbies
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particularly exposure to extreme temperatures above an 88-degree “heat index,”
In what soft arse universe is 88 degrees considered an "extreme temperature"?
These people have lost their damn minds.
Posted on 2/7/26 at 12:03 pm to 4cubbies
Awesome! Let's get this all the way to SCOTUS so it can be found constitutional once and for all.
Posted on 2/7/26 at 12:04 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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What’d he do?
In those days the main labor was cane farming. But the inmates didn't know how to refine it into sugar. My grandfather managed the refinery. The prison was a circle inside a circle. The inner circle was prisoners quarters. The next circle just outside of that was housing for the refinery, the warden's family, the housing for the guards and my dad and his parents. Beyond that 2nd circle was the cane fields and the road to the town of Angola.
Posted on 2/7/26 at 12:11 pm to 4cubbies
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Maybe someone will read the OP before replying to it.
I’m holding out hope.
Posted on 2/7/26 at 12:11 pm to SloaneRanger
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Hard labor has been a thing in sentencing for a long time. Just more judicial activism.
It is too bad that punishment has nothing to do with time and everything to do with loss.
Murder - Death within 3 days
Theft - Loss of arm below elbow without use of prosthetic for life
Rape - Removal of genitals.
That should clean society pretty quickly. Any person who steals for hunger will also cause local churches to lose tax exemption.
Posted on 2/7/26 at 12:16 pm to Perfect Circle
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Next they'll be giving prisoners the right to vote.
Or even ex cons. Can’t have that.
Posted on 2/7/26 at 12:17 pm to imjustafatkid
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Let's get this all the way to SCOTUS so it can be found constitutional once and for all.
That was my initial thought. Not the right court for this battle.
Posted on 2/7/26 at 12:17 pm to 4cubbies
Oh FFS
Posted on 2/7/26 at 12:34 pm to 4cubbies
Those gravel roads of the early 1900s didn't make themselves. They were largely created by convicted criminals repaying their debt to society.
"Three hots and a cot" hasn't been working as enough of a motivation to stay out of prison. Perhaps sprinkling in a daily serving of manual labor will help. If it doesn't teach the value of hard work, debt and repayment, at least it will give our overtaxed population a little return on their investment.
"Three hots and a cot" hasn't been working as enough of a motivation to stay out of prison. Perhaps sprinkling in a daily serving of manual labor will help. If it doesn't teach the value of hard work, debt and repayment, at least it will give our overtaxed population a little return on their investment.
Posted on 2/7/26 at 12:40 pm to TigerAxeOK
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Those gravel roads of the early 1900s didn't make themselves. They were largely created by convicted criminals repaying their debt to society.
You should read up on convict leasing.
Posted on 2/7/26 at 12:41 pm to 4cubbies
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Because Farm Line workers are captive men forced to work
Posted on 2/7/26 at 12:43 pm to SallysHuman
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Rehabilitation should be a happy side effect. Primary purpose is punishment. Crime and Punishment…. not Crime and Self Improvement.
Amen. Something that not many people realize — “corrections” in the criminal justice context means correcting the wrong that occurred, not correcting the criminal.
Posted on 2/7/26 at 12:44 pm to Big Jim Slade
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Hard labor is what determines a felony in Louisiana. LaRS 14:2- “ ‘Felony’ is any crime for which an offender may be sentenced to death or imprisonment at hard labor.”
I wondered why so many DV charges added strangulation in the last few years. The strangulation makes it a felony. Must ensure prison labor population.
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