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re: Americans starting to lose their jobs bc of Trump's tariffs

Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:51 am to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47578 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:51 am to
Address what, exactly? There has been story after story of companies expanding, plants coming back on line, employment on the rise at historic levels. Healthy markets and economic optimism. Huge liberal Wall Street kingpins like Jamie Dimon think this economy will continue to boom for years.

Did you think all of these problems could be fixed without any side effects whatsoever? If that were true, wouldn't they have been fixed long ago? So some heavily subsidized farmers in Mizzou got burned a little. I really don't care. Do U?
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11628 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:57 am to
fake news!

- this board
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26316 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:58 am to
quote:

The first tariffs in both directions are scheduled to take effect July 6


This is a lie, China has had them in place for decades
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 12:00 pm to
God damn dude you get called out for your shot thread bad you have a chance to fix it but instead you respond with more crap. Jesus you fricking suck.
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
16989 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 12:01 pm to
This is one area where I believe Trump is making a mistake. The stock market also believes it because it has been down practically every day since Trump announced the tariffs. For every steel worker these tariffs benefit there is going to be a worker at an automobile plant, a farm implement plant or any other factory that uses steel as a raw material that is going to be negatively affected by this. Economics aren't influenced by who makes a decision they are only influenced by what that decision is. Tariffs have never worked long term and they never will. This has been proven true no matter whether it is a Democrat in the White House applying them or a Republican in the White House applying them.

Also the timing of this is stupid. The full brunt of the tariffs won't be felt in the economic statistics until about three months from now when the third quarter statistics come out. These will be the last statistics to come out before the midterms which will give the Democrats ammunition against Republicans who campaign on the economy. If Trump was absolutely hell bent on doing this he should have waited until after the midterms to roll this out.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59281 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 12:03 pm to
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Let me give you a little advice, when that happens to you, don't come back to the thread.



Or just admit the truth that he/she/it/ze/xi/pocketlint/%/etc was trying to infer a point that is utter bullshite by using a purposely narrow argument and then when called on it didn't even have the balls to take a stance other than "I was just saying it was happening."

As I posted in my last response, if you're pointing it out then you must see it as a problem. If you see it as a problem then what's the recommendation for a fix?

Not surprisingly the OP hasn't attempted to answer to that question.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

Even if a trillion jobs were created bc of Trump's tariffs...
quote:

It doesn't change the fact that some people are losing their jobs because of tariffs
wow. ........
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

Economic theory says those 60 people laid off will end up finding employment in steel industry that is now protected


In theory, the difference between theory and practice is small. In practice, the difference between theory and practice is large.
Posted by hesterhamma
Member since Oct 2013
686 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

Now do the 500 jobs that were added at US Steel in Granite City


Plus another 450 jobs in Boothel with the Aluminum smelter firing up 2 pot lines!
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 12:20 pm to
I took a shite about an hour ago. And someone in America has been fired within the past hour.... It is absolute fact someone was fired cause i took a shite.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66102 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 12:22 pm to
did not click link but they should find a new profession

sincerely,
the oilfield
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91100 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

quote:
his supporters said the "real" unemployment rate was really 44%


never saw claims that high. even with his part time and government jobs. if he can claim those jobs then so can trump right?

next we will hear how obamas record regulations helped the economy.

quote:

Furthermore, the Obama administration’s job creation statistics are not without controversy. Western Journal reported in Nov. 2015, 95 million Americans were not in the workforce, or were leaving the workforce, a possible result of a large baby boomer population approaching or already into
retirement age.



here are annual GDP numbers

2009: -2.8 percent

2010: 2.5 percent

2011: 1.6 percent

2012: 2.2 percent

2013: 1.7 percent

2014: 2.6 percent

2015: 2.9 percent

2016: 1.5 percent

look at his overall average. 1.5%!

2017: 2.3% and looking up 2.3% so far this year. aiming for 4% eventually.


this is the lowest jobless claim in 44.5 years right now!

LINK

now labor participation is still low 62.7% but not obama record level lows of 62.3% since carter. look it up!
Posted by K2LAW
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jun 2007
1807 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

Do everything but address the fact that Americans are losing their jobs directly bc of Trump policies - check


Doesn't Auburn have its own board?
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91100 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 1:54 pm to
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Now. I’m no math wizard. But -260+300=40

So..... your own link just shattered your own thread title....


You, sir. Have failed.


maybe he likes fuzzy math
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
3304 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

So some heavily subsidized farmers in Mizzou got burned a little. I really don't care. Do U?
what about the people near Vacherie that work at the grain elevators that send those beans out? Do you care about them?
Posted by The Bruce
Member since Dec 2013
951 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 2:02 pm to
I was just at a procurement forum for refinery projects and the tariffs will certainly postpone or shelve major capital projects.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35929 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

Even if a trillion jobs were created bc of Trump's tariffs... It doesn't change the fact that some people are losing their jobs because of tariffs. Which is the topic of the thread. This is a simple point i wouldn't expect a typical Trump supporter to comprehend.


OMFG, I never anticipated that Today would be one for the record book!
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47578 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

what about the people near Vacherie that work at the grain elevators that send those beans out? Do you care about them?


quote:

Did you think all of these problems could be fixed without any side effects whatsoever? If that were true, wouldn't they have been fixed long ago?



Did I miss something? Last I checked, every major economic indicator was historically positive. If your goal is to legislate only when there are zero consequences, then you’ll never legislate. What do you think will happen to these farmers when immigration gets fixed? Should we just continue to let illegals pour in?
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26726 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 3:24 pm to
This post was edited on 6/22/18 at 3:25 pm
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