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re: Americans starting to lose their jobs bc of Trump's tariffs

Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:25 am to
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:25 am to
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Even if a trillion jobs were created bc of Trump's tariffs... It doesn't change the fact that some people are losing their jobs because of tariffs.


So then your position is that if there is any loss, regardless of net gain, then something must be bad and should not be done?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74203 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:27 am to
So your position that any policy that results in a NET INCREASE in employment is not worth doing because there are still some people that are on losing end?
Posted by CFBFAN1121
Abbottabad, Pakistan
Member since Sep 2006
4174 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:28 am to
quote:

So then your position is that if there is any loss, regardless of net gain, then something must be bad and should not be done?


No... My position is people are losing their jobs bc of Trump tariffs.

Like it or not it is the absolute truth.... Regardless if someone else in a different state obtained a job.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91100 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:31 am to
he created over 1 million jobs his first 6 months. that was a year ago.

you also deny the black and hispanic unemployment figures?

did you deny the economic impacts JFK and RR had with income tax cuts and regulation rollbacks? we are just getting started here.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91100 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:32 am to
quote:

So then your position is that if there is any loss, regardless of net gain, then something must be bad and should not be done?




this clown is not even worth engaging anymore if that is his mindset

Posted by CFBFAN1121
Abbottabad, Pakistan
Member since Sep 2006
4174 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:33 am to
quote:

So your position that any policy that results in a NET INCREASE in employment is not worth doing because there are still some people that are on losing end?


Here's what i want you to do. Go tell the people who lost their jobs because of Trump's tariffs not to worry because people in another state obtained a job.

I'm sure that'll quell their anger!
Posted by TexasTiger86
Member since Apr 2017
203 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:33 am to
You didn’t take a position. Stating a fact is not taking a position.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23952 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:36 am to
How does this compare with the tens of thousands of jobs lost in Missouri over the last 2 decades because Chinese tariffs hurt our farming industry? Just wondering.
Posted by CFBFAN1121
Abbottabad, Pakistan
Member since Sep 2006
4174 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:36 am to
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you also deny the black and hispanic unemployment figures? 



Lol! For years, Trump and his supporters said the "real" unemployment rate was really 44%...now all of a sudden the "real" unemployment rate is 3.9...right?

This why Trump says he loves his poorly educated supporters. He can tell you anything and you'll blindly believe it.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130289 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:36 am to
Ok. Let's hypothetical.

Let's say that Trump tariffs lead to EVERY adult American being employed except for 1 person that loses their job.

There is a net gain of millions of jobs but ONE person loses their job.

Your STATEMENT would still be true. Someone lost their job because of Tariffs.

However, is it your POSITION that this is bad?

(I'm not sure why I am bothering with an obvious troll but here we are)
This post was edited on 6/22/18 at 11:37 am
Posted by CFBFAN1121
Abbottabad, Pakistan
Member since Sep 2006
4174 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:38 am to
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Stating a fact is not taking a position.


Glad you acknowledged what i said is an absolute fact
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109283 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:39 am to
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Even if a trillion jobs were created bc of Trump's tariffs... It doesn't change the fact that some people are losing their jobs because of tariffs. Which is the topic of the thread. This is a simple point i wouldn't expect a typical Trump supporter to comprehend.


WOMP WOMP
Posted by TexasTiger86
Member since Apr 2017
203 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:39 am to
No one is disputing that some people will lose their jobs. The issue is that you don’t care that there is a net positive in job creation.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:41 am to
Aren't you precious
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:41 am to
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he created over 1 million jobs his first 6 months. that was a year ago.


He hired a million people? Or are you saying the economy added 1M jobs and he is responsible for it? The economy added 10M jobs in obama's last 4 years. Did he create those jobs? Or is it just trump that created jobs?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:41 am to
No anybody who was planning to cut staff can blame it on tariffs and morons will believe it.

If his job numbers were “bad” cnn would mention them daily.

The left has a complete rift with reality
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
59281 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:42 am to
quote:

No... My position is people are losing their jobs bc of Trump tariffs.
Like it or not it is the absolute truth.... Regardless if someone else in a different state obtained a job.



I don't think anyone is disputing that some jobs are being lost. The focus is that we are gaining more than we lose.

If you're pointing it out then you must think it's a problem. If it's a problem, then what's your recommendation for a solution?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134923 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:47 am to
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You can't point to a single statement that i said that is incorrect.
quote:

his supporters said the "real" unemployment rate was really 44%
Posted by BaylorTiger
Member since Nov 2006
2083 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:49 am to
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No... My position is people are losing their jobs bc of Trump tariffs.



Absolute BULL shite...that is now your supposed original intent, only after you got your entire insinuated position completed annihilated with a simple, logical rebuttal.

Let me give you a little advice, when that happens to you, don't come back to the thread.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56551 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:50 am to
“We don’t want a trade war,” said Gary Wheeler, executive director of the Missouri Soybean Association. “That’s the worst-case scenario for us and for China.”


but we will win the trade war...it's part of negotiating

Trump will not flinch...

so we got this
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