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re: American Doctor describes his two 2024 visits to Gaza

Posted on 1/4/25 at 11:23 pm to
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 11:23 pm to
Forgot about the Little Rock Army Recruiting shooting.

Islam is synonymous with terror.
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS
Member since Mar 2004
73196 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 11:27 pm to
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Care to garner a few facts from an American?




frick Palestine and Israel
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25463 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 11:29 pm to
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this is an interview with a surgeon from Texas, who was in Gaza in April and November of 2024.


I don’t trust anything an American that’s been to Gaza twice in the same year has to say.

Nobody just tolls over there to see what’s up. This dude is either some kind of fricking nutball or a radical Islamist.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91100 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 11:29 pm to
youa re linking common dreams?

a fricking socialist loving left wing site?



and then NBC?

Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13525 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:05 am to
Sure wish Hamas would stop it.

As they could have instantly stopped it any day between Oct 7th and today.

By simply surrendering and giving up the hostages they took.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:47 am to
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It’s a cultish, non-sensical belief perpetrated by American evangelicals taking ONE verse from the Old Testament out of context.


The USA is a Protestant Nation. The Protestant religion is fanatically devoted to the protection of Israel, regardless of how Israel wages war. The Old Testament provides the Law of War for Israel. What is the Old Testament method of waging war? War is Hell. We will kill all of you and lay waste to your lands. Do you know realize by now that this is the majority American view? It is not going to change.

Most Protestant pastors in the USA preach to their flocks that God will punish the USA unless the USA allows Israel to do whatever it pleases, wages war however it pleases and helps Israel with blood and treasure, according to what Israel wants. This is a large part of their Religion. You think you can talk somebody OUT of believing their Religion? You might, but, such a person would probably change their Religion to something that does not worship Israel.

I believe that the USA should treat Israel as any other US ally. I don't worship the State of Israel as some kind of Biblical "divine" country or people, not more than any other country or people are God's Own.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14888 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:00 am to
The Palestinians do not have a country. No other Muslim nations want them so obviously they aren’t seen as industrious or talented people. They only get support because they cause problems for the Israelis. They had a good life before they listened to Arafat and started the Intifada. Now most of their leaders are terrorists who think murder and rape is Holy War.

The Palestinians have brought all their problems on themselves. I have no sympathy for them while they rape women and blow things up.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55324 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:03 am to
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giving up the hostages they took.


Taking hostages like they've done is one of the worst violations of human rights and the rules of war possible. Oct 7th is why Americans are so very angry at the Palis and is a large part of the reason why Americans don't care how many civilians get killed there.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19570 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:31 am to
Palestinians are either terrorist or waiting to be terrorists.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
13053 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 3:08 am to
I’m kinda surprised the Clowns in the ‘I heart Hitler’ threads aren’t all up in here arguing that Hamas has really done some pretty great things, if you think about it…
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39697 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 3:56 am to
If your Doctor had visited Hiroshima or Dresden after we totally and without regard to civilian women and children, fire-bombed those cities into oblivion, they would have found the same thing, and much worse. When a population throws their allegiance behind blatantly evil regimes/movements and ruthlessly and unmercifully attacks their opponents, then they open the door to an in-kind response aimed at removing the threat and punishing the attackers. It is theologically and historically well-documented that Islam intends to destroy or subjugate those who resist Islamic Theology, with the Jewish People and Nation at the fore. Muslims who accept this caustic and evil theological narrative have the blood of all who suffer and die in the carnage and “wailing and gnashing of teeth “, on their hands. And IMO, because of pride and spiritual delusion, they Fanatical Islamists won’t and things will get a lot worse. And Gaza is just the beginning of what is to come. It will be our women and kids suffering, soon enough minus some power to prevent it. The talk is at a stalemate, and Satan is laughing all the way to the bank.
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 5:32 am to
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Israel propped up Hamas for years as a divide and conquer strategy to dilute Palestinian leadership between Gaza and the West Bank to weaken their attempts to seek a two state solution. Should Israel itself not bear some responsibility for feeding the monster that eventually attacked them? And certainly not punish the civilians over their own blunder?


You're never going to convince evangelicals that Israel is a bad actor.

Evangelicals view all this as a necessary precursor for Armageddon, therefore they cheer it on.
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 5:40 am to
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Most Protestant pastors in the USA preach to their flocks that God will punish the USA unless the USA allows Israel to do whatever it pleases, wages war however it pleases and helps Israel with blood and treasure, according to what Israel wants.


American evangelicals are useful idiots for Israel.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35949 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 5:55 am to
I know I'm late on this thread, but as long as Hamas still holds a single hostage and the Palestinians haven't had major uprisings demanding their release I don't really want to hear shite about them.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:44 am to
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The Jews are sneaky and greedy, I'll give you that. I knew that was the long game from day one. But you know what? The Palestinians are barbarians, so frick em.


I'm okay with that stance.

How about we do that without US tax dollars going to Israel to buy US weapons, and US troops surrounding the region?

Meanwhile putting the troops, and probably American citizens in harms way (as we probably saw in NOLA on New Years Day).
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:45 am to
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That’s why I say frick them both.


I'm okay with that stance.

How about we do that without US tax dollars going to Israel to buy US weapons, and US troops surrounding the region?

Meanwhile putting the troops, and probably American citizens in harms way (as we probably saw in NOLA on New Years Day).
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:45 am to
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What does this have to do with me


I'm okay with that stance.

How about we do that without US tax dollars going to Israel to buy US weapons, and US troops surrounding the region?

Meanwhile putting the troops, and probably American citizens in harms way (as we probably saw in NOLA on New Years Day).
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:45 am to
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I don’t wonder about Gaza.

I don’t wonder about Ukraine.

Close our border. Deport many.
Prosecute criminals.



I'm okay with that stance.

How about we do that without US tax dollars going to Israel to buy US weapons, and US troops surrounding the region?

Meanwhile putting the troops, and probably American citizens in harms way (as we probably saw in NOLA on New Years Day).
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:46 am to
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War is hell. Urban warfare, even more so. However, Gaza started this thing, and unfortunately, it's now a pure "reap what you sow" phenomenon.




I'm okay with that stance.

How about we do that without US tax dollars going to Israel to buy US weapons, and US troops surrounding the region?

Meanwhile putting the troops, and probably American citizens in harms way (as we probably saw in NOLA on New Years Day).
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:47 am to
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I don't give a shite about either side.
But I'm going to think someone is a moron cuckold if they simp for Gaza.


How about you simp for the American tax payer and the American citizens?
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