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re: AI Data centers
Posted on 5/15/26 at 8:30 am to Victor R Franko
Posted on 5/15/26 at 8:30 am to Victor R Franko
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resources used to grow that animal feed
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ould have been used for human consumption or other foods
Uh, does someone want to tell him?
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Posted on 5/15/26 at 8:35 am to GetmorewithLes
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You panicans do not understand what you are talking about. The only thing that an AI data center uses water for is for non contact cooling water. Not sure where they are planning on getting it but the center is out in the middle of nowhere and 15 miles from the Miss River.
I keep seeing this hypothetical. But the fact is that they are not going to use Mississippi River water. They've already said that they're using ground water (and so are the 3 power plants).
The sketchy part with me is that nobody will know how much water they're using, or how much water they're putting out. They're sending their wastewater to the local treatment works (which they paid to renovate to meet their capacity) so they don't need any water permits from the State at all. Also, private well withdrawals aren't typically monitored by any state agency, and legislation to create reporting requirements have all been shot down this session (which to be fair, that bill was shite and not well thought out).
This post was edited on 5/15/26 at 8:44 am
Posted on 5/15/26 at 9:15 am to Ailsa
There was a community meeting when water consumption was a concern in a small town up north USA...
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Water Usage Details
Cooling Method: Closed-loop cooling system.
Consumption Rate: Uses roughly 1,000 gallons per day, significantly less than traditional open-loop centers that rely heavily on evaporation.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 9:20 am to Ailsa
This may be the unifying topic that brings the right and left together to fight our tech overlords.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 9:24 am to FLTech
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I bet all of the residents in cahoots still use their iphones, apps, Netflix, chat gpt, Google, Facebook, all, apple music, Amazon prime, etc every single day though. It's ok for them to use the bandwidth needed for their precious apps but God forbid putting one of those things near the residents in cahoots!
And yet we've done without them all these years...why the change?
Posted on 5/15/26 at 9:34 am to Ailsa
It’s gonna happen regardless of what people argue.
Accept it. AI will improve the lives of everyone and will become more efficient to run.
It will improve quality of life for everyone.
Accept it. AI will improve the lives of everyone and will become more efficient to run.
It will improve quality of life for everyone.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 9:35 am to The Eric
Elon musk is suppose to build a water recycling plant in Memphis but it is currently delayed :violin. He is pumping big money into the tiger town so I don’t see why he won’t finish the recycle plant
This post was edited on 5/15/26 at 9:37 am
Posted on 5/15/26 at 9:39 am to jb4
Why no desal plants along the east coast?
Posted on 5/15/26 at 12:52 pm to LifeTimeTiger2
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You’re an idiot
thank you, i truly value your opinion.......
both systems have a closed loop piping on the evaporator side of the chiller. That is the Chilled water side (CHW). an air cooled chiller used air directed over the condenser coil to reject heat to the atmosphere.(no much different then that residential DX unit) a water cooled chiller plant will use condenser water sent to a cooling tower for evaporative cooling as its means of rejecting heat to the atmosphere.
A water cooled chiller plant can be designed at less then 0.7kW/ton where as the Air-cooled chiller plant will be north of 1.5k/Ton. for a 50,000 Ton plant . at 0.13 per kw/hr that is a difference in $43m+ a year in electricity costs.
a water cooled system is the correct design. and sence most of the water lost is evaporating, and not going into the sewer treatment plant, its not really a big issue as the water here in LA with eventually make it back into the aquafers via rainfall......
i would
Posted on 5/15/26 at 1:02 pm to tigeraddict
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a water cooled system is the correct design. and sence most of the water lost is evaporating, and not going into the sewer treatment plant, its not really a big issue as the water here in LA with eventually make it back into the aquafers via rainfall......
Rain that just randomly falls doesn't necessarily go back into the aquifers. Example: the Sparta aquifer which supplies most of North and Central Louisiana is recharged through a relatively small area in Webster Parish where the Sparta sand reaches the surface. Everywhere else it's covered by a layer of impermeable clay. Any rain that falls elsewhere doesn't go back into the aquifer.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 5:17 pm to cajunangelle
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These lines being updated are for a data center that’s not even close, it’s across the bridge 20 minutes away
This is happening across Fairless Hills, Bristol, Middletown, and surrounding Bucks County spots due to multiple data center projects
New Jersey already has 80+ data centers with more planned so these updates are happening everywhere
Residents in these areas are already paying some of the power costs and grid upgrades related to data centers
Welcome to corporate socialism. Money is taken from you to pay for the data centers infrastructure, but they won’t share any of the profits with you
It’s called socialized losses and privatized profits
Posted on 5/15/26 at 9:26 pm to The Eric
EXACTLY
Posted on 5/15/26 at 9:29 pm to Ailsa
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It’s 4 million square feet. That’s 2,250 acres, roughly 70 football fields
Well 4 million square feet is only 91.87 acres.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 9:52 am to lsufan1971
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Well 4 million square feet is only 91.87 acres.
True he got his math wrong but the rest is true.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 10:37 am to KamaCausey_LSU
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The sketchy part with me is that nobody will know how much water they're using, or how much water they're putting out. They're sending their wastewater to the local treatment works (which they paid to renovate to meet their capacity) so they don't need any water permits from the State at all.
BULL shite. That water from the griound will be treated or filtered to some degree. You can't just run it through the cooling towers straight from the ground. All that shite is metered and monitored. By some form of government either state or federal. They'll monitor consumption, ground water levels, and for damn sure how much to tax and bill. NOTHING goes untaxed in some form or another.
They'll know how much the cooling towers are using for makeup water and blow down. They'll know the quality of the MUW and BFW as water gravity impacts the cooling systems.
Quite frankly it'd be better if you didn't worry about it in public and let the engineers deal with it.
quote:how do they know how much to renovate treatment if they don't know what they're sending them? How do they know what they're going to consume vs sending downstream if not metering?
They're sending their wastewater to the local treatment works (which they paid to renovate to meet their capacity) so they don't need any water permits from the State at all.
I better quit. The stupidity of
Just put a bullet in me and call it a mercy killing.
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 4:13 pm to The Eric
Posted on 5/16/26 at 4:16 pm to cajunangelle
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Water Usage Details
Cooling Method: Closed-loop cooling system.
The one going up in missouri will start with 8 million gallons and they said after that, they will need 1 million every year after that...and it's closed loop.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 4:17 pm to Ailsa
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quote: - It’s 4 million square feet. That’s 2,250 acres, roughly 70 football fields - It’s permitted to use 23 million gallons of water PER DAY - Estimates are saying 600 million gallons of water per year will be used - Residents are seeing a tremendous amount of noise and bright lights
You don’t do this for nothing.
And the something they ARE doing this for ain’t what they saying it is for, and it ain’t good.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 5:28 pm to billjamin
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Louisianastan about to have electrical prices on par with California.
Only for the retarded. Meta is paying for Entergy to build two combined cycle power plants generating more than it will use. That means the consumers are paying the cost for building.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 5:31 pm to Warfox
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You don’t do this for nothing.
And the something they ARE doing this for ain’t what they saying it is for, and it ain’t good.
Exactly
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