re: AI Data centers

Intel has been expanding in Ocotillo/Chandler for the last 4 years. New Intel greenfield site just outside of Columbus OH. TSMC new massive site just east of PHX for the last 4-5 years. Micron new plant expansion in Boise ongoing currently. Global Foundries in Malta NY. I think has an expansion happening now or in production.

All that being said, US microchip plants have been and continues to expand for last 4-5 years.

As far as permits go an NGLs frac plant in NM has the rights to over 174 million gallons 534 acre feet) per year in the high desert. It barely even rains there and doesn't get much snow.

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Elon is gonna break the bank with his SpaceX AI Data Centers.. they don’t need power from a grid because they can use solar panels and it will require a lot less water.. this will be the winning solution and he is light years ahead of everyone else playing that game..

If.. big If.. he can make it work.. and based on everything else he does, I wouldn’t bet against him.. I think you could argue that all of his other companies were built for this primary purpose.. it all syncs perfectly..

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The ability for xAI to turn the failure that was Colossus into a huge revenue stream (by teaming with Anthropic) reminds me of when Amazon finally reached profitability, not from their shopping or prime, but from AWS.

And what you posted is going to be the realization of that shift by xAI (or whatever the company ends up when Elon is done merging them). Printing money first over fist for Elon's companies.

when the AI Wars are over 80% of these will be abandoned monoliths rotting in rural fields.

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when the AI Wars are over 80% of these will be abandoned monoliths rotting in rural fields.

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Naw. Just look at Colossus the "failure" and how it's being repurposed.

Now, if the world collapses to a degree where the internet no longer works and we don't share/store data electronically? Ok , but we'll have bigger worries than AI data centers at that point where the "abandoned monoliths" will be such a minor problem they won't register as one.

You can do some mind-numbingly amazing stuff with AI

I've been working on a project for about a week and I woke up to a 187-page document that would streamline and organize a project that would have taken literal months to be created by hand by a small team of people.

This follows the creation of 2 documents of 36 and 18 pages. And a lot of back and forth working out the needs/goals/plans of the project in separate chats over the past week.

This is tens of thousands of dollars of work for just in the document created last night (I left the prompt with Claud when i went to bed so I'm not sure how long it took to make, but probably 20 minutes max). The total output of this work could be immense.

I cannot believe what I was able to do this past week. This is non-legal work and may be the foundation for another company. My intern came back yesterday and I set up his Gemini (I have GWS and 2 users) with a pin where Gemini has already read the 3 documents and understand its strict editorial/suggestion role. I could do this remotely with a team from anywhere on earth adn they could start working on this project now.

yep but people here are screaming about its going to take our water and take our jobs

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The thing about these proposals that I do not understand, is the extreme amount of water used. I am assuming that due to efforts to keep electronics cool, and the need for temp regulation the water usage would be well above normal. However, does that mean that millions of gallons of water per day is just going to disappear? Can the runoff not be collected and recycled or is it permanently evaporated? Steam generating and nuclear power plants would be on par I would think. There has to be a solution.

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Any large refinery or chemical plants uses water for cooling. Some of it evaporates into the air Permits for usage are generally wildly overstated.

As I said before these people don't know shiite and sit in a cubicle or mom's basement and comment.

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yep but people here are screaming about its going to take our water and take our jobs

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Dude quit being an obtuse douche bag. If you can't see people's many, legit concerns with this, then you are an idiot.

No one considers that. They just assume complete evaporation.

We’ve got a ready built solution just north of Savannah. The Hyundai electric car plant will go bust. No one wants 50,000 Korean cars per year. Especially when the Toyota and Tesla water engines hit the market.