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re: Active Marines - Have Women in the Infantry Had a Negative Impact on the USMC?

Posted on 3/28/24 at 8:05 pm to
Posted by Broadside Bob
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2012
1280 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 8:05 pm to
Several years ago, I saw a FB post from a woman I went to HS with many years ago. She grew up to be a marine wife and mother...hubby had just gotten his first star (now retired as a two-star); son was a two-striper. In response to the question, "what's the optimum number of women in a combat unit, she retorted why it would be any number other than 'zero.'"

She went on to put it another way: "Imagine your father/son/brother/husband/boyfriend is a soldier or marine who has been wounded and is now pinned down in a firefight. His sergeant can spare one soldier/marine to go rescue him. That's the bad news. The good news is you get to pick the soldier/marine. Are you sending a man or a woman?" That about sums it up better than any other argument I've ever heard on the subject.

Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50802 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 8:11 pm to
You’re a piece of shite and a liar.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
16063 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 8:19 pm to
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I had 72 Marines in my platoon on my last deployment.


And that means nothing. Also, I've never seen a platoon with 72 people.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73988 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 8:26 pm to
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You’re a piece of shite and a liar.


Don't fricking melt because I called you out. You made some shite up, and didn't expect anyone to notice.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73988 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 8:27 pm to
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And that means nothing.


72 > 28

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Also, I've never seen a platoon with 72 people.


Cool story.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
16063 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 8:42 pm to
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72 > 28


Still meaningless.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
9612 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 8:45 pm to
Newsflash, women can’t do anything on the battlefield better than men can. Maybe with technology they can operate robot warriors, but that day isn’t now. Your imaginary wonderland where women compete with men isn’t here yet. It’s a fantasy.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73988 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 8:45 pm to
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Still meaningless.


It's only meaningless if your original data is meaningless...which it is. So, you have a point, but not the point you think you have.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
16063 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 8:55 pm to
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It's only meaningless if your original data is meaningless...which it is. So, you have a point, but not the point you think you have.


I get it now: this is another instance of you not having an argument, but trying to drag it out as long as possible.


Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73988 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 8:59 pm to
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I get it now: this is another instance of you not having an argument, but trying to drag it out as long as possible.



My argument is that your data is mostly irrelevant. You supported that argument with little effort on my part. TYFYS.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
49876 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 9:05 pm to
Is it your contention that our military infantry forces have a service-need for female infantry due to personnel and numbers issues? Or is it your position that female infantry is necessary for political or equity reasons?

Do our infantry forces require a number of female infantry in order to fill out the ranks, i.e. fill out the TO&E so that our infantry squads are combat effective?

Numbers-wise could our infantry squads do well without female infantry?
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21183 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 9:28 pm to
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How do Israeli female fighters do? Haven’t they had women in combat for awhile?

I would guess that mean, vindictive, a fear of being raped, and heavily armed makes for effective homeland defense against poorly trained aggressors attacking your homesteads.

Now, you could load the border patrol with armed women who think Mexicans are going to rape and kill them, and it would also be effective.

But that's a different mission than what the Marines and Army are training for.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 9:37 pm to
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Also, I've never seen a platoon with 72 people.


I had 58 in my platoon as a PL.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73988 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:05 pm to
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service-need
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necessary
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require


We have an all-volunteer force.
Posted by salty1
Member since Jun 2015
4568 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:44 pm to
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A combat unit gains NOTHING by admitting women, but risks all the things outlined above.


This. I spent 10 years in the Marine Corps infantry (1/8, 1/2, and 2/6), and I agree that allowing women into combat arms sacrifices readiness for political correctness. MCRD and SOI on the west coast. It would be impossible for a female to keep up carrying the same combat loads their male counterparts are carrying. Simply put, any WM in a combat unit would be a liability, not an asset.

On a side note, I was on the first LHA that allowed women naval enlisted to deploy with us. It was a freaking goat rope, as expected. Two out of the four were sent home, pregnant. One of the others was injured somehow. Completely useless. I’d hate to see how bad it’s gotten today.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
13741 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:48 pm to
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Just like dudes, some are gtg and some are shitbags.


This is just dumb. The question wasn’t are they nice people, it was can they run fast, fight a 200 pound man hand to hand, or pull your wounded arse behind cover. I don’t want a 115 pound woman doing any of that. If you say you do, you’re a liar.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
7535 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:51 pm to
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combat arms sacrifices readiness for political correctness.


/thread.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
1997 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 12:09 am to
They've got trannys in the military now and you're worried about women. Good God.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
7535 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 12:27 am to
Unloading a trailer of thousands of pounds of cottonseed makes me consider (40-45# a bag) whether I needed to vomit or not. That shite would make a female Crossfit chick blow chunks. And a 155m round weighs twice of each bag. But yeah, make that group of soldiers wait another couple of seconds for support. No.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
72277 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 5:39 am to
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Now that women are able to vote, they should represent us on every front line of every military branch we have.


Women being draft eligible should have been part of the 19th Amendment.

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