re: Active Marines - Have Women in the Infantry Had a Negative Impact on the USMC?

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This is why gays shouldn't have been allowed either.

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There was nothing wrong with don’t ask don’t tell .. it worked

My observation isn’t contemporary as I never saw a BAM deployed in Nam, or know much about the present initiatives.

I’m sure there are females who can run 3 miles in jungle boots in 18 minutes, or stay with the platoon up and down Mount Mofo. Physically, the issue is upper body strength and stamina.

I’ve know one woman in my life who might be able to keep up on that front, a butch lesbian 6’ tall and a very fit 160 pounds. That’s it, one. The average female doesn’t have that physical attribute.

Mentally, the first time an AK 7.62 wizzes 2” by your ear coming from an invisible jungle is when your entire perspective on life and survival dramatically changes. I never got used to it but my bond to my fellow grunts allowed me to press ahead. I don’t believe the average woman is mentally prepared for that.

The only approach that makes sense is to have women subject to the same physical training demands as males. Lowering standards won’t help when the shite hits the fan.

Women have their useful place in the military. Infantry units are not one of them.

Women are rotten to the corps.....but wonderful to the infantry

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Holy taking one statement completely out of context there Batman.

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Quoting you is taking something out of context? It’s a serious question, as you obviously know very little about the military and what it claims to prioritize.

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It was a male major general

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Who doesn’t want to get fired for saying anything that what was said.

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It’s been proven by the Marine Corps in war games that all male units are superior to coed units in combat. Females get injured too often and couldn’t complete many of the physical tasks required in combat. All male units will slaughter coed and all female units. No doubt about it.

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Yes but diversity made the slaughtered unit stronger

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Why not? There are clearly downsides to managing mixed gender troops in a forward area, which is why they have to attempt to segregate and have policies about males/females being in various living spaces. There’s a reason they weren’t allowed on ships long after they were allowed in the Navy, and it took longer still to allow them on subs. So if we’re going to add negatives when we integrate them, and clearly we are, then they need to be worth it. Maintaining the status quo, which they clearly don’t do anyway, shouldn’t be enough. The military shouldn’t be viewed as a jobs program that’s “fair”, but that’s how a lot of people look at it. Sounds like you’re one of them.

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To quote Ronald Reagan- “there you go again”.

You make hyperbolic arguments about “clear downsides” and “reasons they weren’t allowed on ships”.

Then of course, you resort to the old standby of “sounds like you’re one of them” in an attempt to invoke the liberal boogie man - which ignores the fact that I have stated multiple times I am “against making special exceptions to get females in”.

If you’re making a blanket exclusion to 51% of the population - even though a much smaller percentage of that group may qualify - you are lowering the pool of potential candidates. That can result in issues with the numerical strength as well as the quality. Those concerns far outweigh the simple existence of having to “manage mixed gendered troops”.

I stand by my statement. Set the standards. If a marine passes it, the marine passes it. I’m against making a special exception to “get more females in” but similarly against a restriction that keeps a female who qualifies out “because”.

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Maybe with technology they can operate robot warriors

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Nope video games show us females are vastly inferior to men in that category too.