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re: A Constitutional Convention. Democrats fear it's coming ....
Posted on 12/16/24 at 4:00 pm to Night Vision
Posted on 12/16/24 at 4:00 pm to Night Vision
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They've been talking about this for years. Thing that worries me is rhinos flipping and going along with dims to really screw some things up.
That would take a lot of rinos. The very first step is getting 2/3rds of the states to even agree to making the convention.
And it's uphill from there.
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 4:02 pm to Indefatigable
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Unless, of course, they decide differently
Would not be constitutional. The proposed measure coming out of the Convention of States needs to be ratified by 3/4 of state legislatures.
The amendment process is a two step process.
Step 1: the proposal or resolution needs to pass 2/3rds of congress OR 2/3rds of the states in a Convention of States.
Step 2: the proposal or resolution needs to pass 3/4ths of state legislatures (38 states) or 3/4th of the states that convene a convention.
The 21st amendment was the only amendment passed by convention of states. The rest were passed by congress and state legislatures.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 4:06 pm to scrooster
I'm opposed to Constitutional Convention because the chance of more damage than good. Beside most of what I see here can be taken care of by passing laws.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 4:08 pm to scrooster
TERM LIMITS IN BOTH HOUSE.
Yes I was yelling on purpose.
Yes I was yelling on purpose.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 4:12 pm to scrooster
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In California, a Democratic state senator, Scott Wiener, will introduce legislation on Monday that would rescind the state’s seven active calls for a constitutional convention
It's funny how they 100% want something when they have the supermajority, but then they set land speed records in crawfishing the very moment the opponent gains power.
Good for goose apparently =/= good for gander.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 4:18 pm to GumboPot
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Would not be constitutional.
At a convention convened to change the document, I don't know why that would ever matter. History is full of evidence that such events absolutely always escape the scope they were intended to cover
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The proposed measure coming out of the Convention of States needs to be ratified by 3/4 of state legislatures.
Unless, of course, the delegates simply vote on something else entirely.
The Constitution itself was drafted at a convention that was ostensibly supposed to merely amend the Articles of Confederation. The convention didn't have the authority to do what they did. They just did.
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The 21st amendment was the only amendment passed by convention of states.
Negative. There has never been a convention of the states. The 21st was ratified via individual state conventions as opposed to state legislatures.
This post was edited on 12/16/24 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 12/16/24 at 4:19 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
Apply TL's across the entire government spectrum.
Egalitarius Maximus
Egalitarius Maximus
Posted on 12/16/24 at 4:19 pm to scrooster
16th Amendment repealed, elimination of income tax.
17th Amendment repealed.
17th Amendment repealed.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 4:21 pm to Tiger985
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Term limits for Congress.
the only people
who couldn’t get in board with this would be congressmen.
Term limits for congress. Term limits for the SCOTUS. these could be longer.
I feel like right now we’re are picking justices on both sides based on longevity vs experience and proven track record.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 4:22 pm to scrooster
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A Constitutional Convention. Democrats fear it's coming ....
Would require 38 states to ratify any amendments. Republicans only have control of 28 states.
This post was edited on 12/16/24 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 12/16/24 at 4:28 pm to scrooster
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1 - Strengthen the 2A
How can you strengthen "shall not be infringed"??
Posted on 12/16/24 at 4:35 pm to Tiger985
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Term limits for Congress.
There are many on this forum who claim term limits already exist, it's called elections. Those same people need to go research a little on how much of an advantage incumbents have over their challengers with respect to big donors and political influence. I heard a statistic awhile back that claimed those running for Congressional seats, who are incumbents, win over 70% of their reelections.
Yes, there should be Congressional term limits and strict lobby reform along with tenure limits for every Bureaucratic State Skunk.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 4:41 pm to scrooster
Term limits
Posted on 12/16/24 at 4:45 pm to Pezzo
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How can you strengthen "shall not be infringed"??
I suppose you could add a disclaimer: “This amendment cannot be restricted unlike the other amendments with similar language which are reasonably restricted”
Posted on 12/16/24 at 5:20 pm to Pezzo
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How can you strengthen "shall not be infringed"??
Get rid of the militia wording and add, "all common use ..." and "free to carry and transport."
Heller laid it out for us.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 5:23 pm to VoxDawg
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Repeal the 17th Amendment and return appointment of Senators to Governors/State legislatures
Add provisions for the States to remove and replace Senators at their discretion
Posted on 12/16/24 at 5:24 pm to scrooster
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What am I forgetting?
You are forgetting the most important: Repeal the 17th amendment to re-introduce states’ rights into the federal government.
ETA: Looks like I’m way behind. Sorry!!
This post was edited on 12/16/24 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 12/16/24 at 5:27 pm to Cuz413
Presidential line item veto for budgets
1 6 year term for POTUS, no re-elections
Spell out the legal ability of a State to secede or re-enter the Union
1 6 year term for POTUS, no re-elections
Spell out the legal ability of a State to secede or re-enter the Union
Posted on 12/16/24 at 5:38 pm to scrooster
7- eliminate ability for foreign companies and nationals to own land in the US.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 5:40 pm to scrooster
Eliminate all amendments after 15, recognize the original 13th amendment
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