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re: 52% of US Schools have begun rolling out a new program called Equatable grading
Posted on 10/7/25 at 9:19 pm to the808bass
Posted on 10/7/25 at 9:19 pm to the808bass
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One of our very real problems is that our reading curriculum has been so bad that we have high school students who literally cannot complete basic assignments because they are functionally illiterate. And it’s not completely their fault. The system failed them by trying to teach them to read with systems and practices that didn’t work and never would.
If you were able to turn back time and teach them to read in elementary school like we should have, there would be a pronounced subset of these kids that you could successfully engage with further learning. Because they could read.
I remember going to school in the 60's and 70's when most of the curriculum was presented in a rote learning style. You had to memorize foundational fundamentals and concepts in all subjects.
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Posted on 10/7/25 at 10:06 pm to dnm3305
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We absolutely can. We lack the will.
School is not supposed to be glorified babysitting but that’s exactly what it’s become.
I understand the problem and I agree with your sentiment.
Let me rephrase my question. What do we do with those kids once we expel them? Where do they go?
Posted on 10/7/25 at 10:14 pm to Placekicker
I may have improved on my 2.1 GPA, if I had been given some of these accommodations.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:54 am to Tiger1242
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Let me rephrase my question. What do we do with those kids once we expel them? Where do they go?
Gotcha.
And the answer is WE don’t do shite. WE did not create that child. That child is not OUR responsibility.
If we adopt this fundamental mindset as a society then we can get back to some sense of normalcy, although I doubt it because we are already too far gone.
This may sound cruel, but I do not care about that child, at all. Not in the slightest.
We used to be the greatest nation in the world. Then we incentivized people to not raise their own children and penalized good hardworking kids that are being drug beneath the surface because of “no child is left behind.”
frick. That. I am one that has been patronized for too long and I am now cold and bitter.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:00 am to tigereye58
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Take out the schools that are 80% minority or low income and those scores shoot up.
Not so fast. Rich whitey loves throwing iPads at toddlers to shut them up, so they kant reed neethur.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:01 am to LSUMANINVA
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I thought we were abolishing the Dept of Education?
Nationally yes. These are done by local districts.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:03 am to Placekicker
The plan is to make it impossible for colleges to not give top scholarships to lumps of stupid.
The step they keep tripping on is standardized tests.
The step they keep tripping on is standardized tests.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:04 am to dnm3305
quote:you’ll care about them when they are on the streets breaking laws or doing drugs though. Education of children is a positive for society, abandoning the bottom 10-20% is going to be bad for everyone
This may sound cruel, but I do not care about that child, at all. Not in the slightest.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:10 am to GamecockUltimate
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The only counter point I have Schools and teachers are having to try and get creative since parents don't do their jobs at home, and only seem to raise hell when teachers discipline their kids. The teachers/schools have really been handicapped in what they can do. I imagine the thought is, unlimited retests are a way to get the kids to learn from mistakes and actually learn the material. No zero's for missing work encourage kids to do the work, even if late. Just trying to think of all of this from the other side. As for no grade for HW, a lot of colleges do that. idea is that homework is just that, and a good way to prep for tests
Recent studies have shown most parents don’t read to their children anymore. It shouldn’t be a surprise so many are illiterate. If they aren’t reading to them, you can bet they aren’t helping them with homework either. There’s very little a teacher can do if a student isn’t motivated to pay attention and do the work. That motivation has to come from within or from the parents. Teachers can only do so much with 25+ students.
Smartphones, social media, endless scrolling on TikTok, AI, etc has also evaporated children’s (and adults) attention spans, further eroding their learning abilities.
The most fundamental difference someone can make in their child’s education is just to be involved. Read to them every night or have them read if they’re old enough. Make sure homework is done and check for accuracy. Students making it to graduation and being borderline illiterate is the fault of the parents. You have to be an absentee parent for the problem to make it that far.
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 8:23 am
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:11 am to Tiger1242
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So do you think doing a better job of teaching kindergartners and 1st graders to read will improve the issue many schools are facing in the next 2-5 years?
Uh, yeah.
It's even more important with math, which builds on itself pretty quickly from an early age. If you get behind, it takes an incredible amount of resources to catch up. If you're 2-3 years behind conceptually, unless you're incredibly smart (and even then frustration usually takes hold), you won't catch up
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:19 am to Placekicker
I work in heavy construction like interstates , bridges, and large drainage. We even install the HD cameras and hardware/ software to operate them.
We have a difficult time hiring new people. They can’t read a tape measure.
They don’t want to work at night. They don’t want to work outside , they don’t want to sweat. They don’t want to work 50 + hours a week.
Our Country has a Problem.
We have a difficult time hiring new people. They can’t read a tape measure.
They don’t want to work at night. They don’t want to work outside , they don’t want to sweat. They don’t want to work 50 + hours a week.
Our Country has a Problem.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:27 am to SantaFe
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I work in heavy construction like interstates , bridges, and large drainage. We even install the HD cameras and hardware/ software to operate them.
We have a difficult time hiring new people. They can’t read a tape measure.
They don’t want to work at night. They don’t want to work outside , they don’t want to sweat. They don’t want to work 50 + hours a week.
Our Country has a Problem.
There is a difference between not being able to read a tape measure, and not wanting to work at night or outside, and not wanting to sweat.
Not being able to read a tape measure is an educational issue.
Those other things are motivational issues.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:30 am to Placekicker
I approve of this.
Keep widening the gap between my kids and the kids with parents who view high school graduation as the end game.
Keep widening the gap between my kids and the kids with parents who view high school graduation as the end game.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:30 am to TulsaSooner78
Yes and they are connected.
If someone is not motivated they will have a difficult time learning anything.
If someone is not motivated they will have a difficult time learning anything.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:34 am to paulb52
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Great, keep graduating dummies.
The government needs future employees.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:34 am to Tiger1242
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I understand the problem and I agree with your sentiment.
Let me rephrase my question. What do we do with those kids once we expel them? Where do they go?
Most will go into the 'Hood' and onto the Welfare Rolls and be, and create victims via the "an idle mind is the devil's workshop" narrative. "Where there is no vision, my people die".
This Forum knows the only 'solution', as do the Politicos that let the National Debt just keep climbing...and the painful, organic collapse and reboot which is inevitable given the current dynamics. It's like the Titanic; they saw the iceberg but couldn't avoid it. And there were only so many lifeboats.
There is a minimal possibility that the coming AI/High Tech revolution may bring positive socio/economic possibilities to the table, but that is a longshot as DEI Ideology will remain. Along with Human's basic Envy instincts, and the various psychoses that many individuals are now imprinted with, for their life's duration.
Bottom line: Get Jesus if that is a viable option. And hope that we exist in a Spiritual Reality/Universe. If not, we are gnats and it really don't matter anyway, as it ALL goes away for eternity.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:38 am to Placekicker
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52%: Schools/districts using at least one Equitable Grading policy
Are these actual school numbers or a percentage of surveyed participants? I think this is misleading.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:00 am to LSUMANINVA
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I thought we were abolishing the Dept of Education?
There are individual school districts that are to the left of the Dept. of Education.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:02 am to LSUMANINVA
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I thought we were abolishing the Dept of Education?
maybe we should bring it back to stop this nonsense.
Equitable grading is setting these kids up to fail so hard when they reach the real world.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:14 am to Placekicker
this is because public schools need to fix their numbers to look better.
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