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re: 40% of all living veterans are on disability benefits

Posted on 7/13/26 at 4:38 pm to
Posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat
Fort Smith
Member since Nov 2009
20729 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 4:38 pm to
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once you hit 55


55 years old is when they, typically, stop having the vet retest for certain things. They use 55 as the age that any condition you have will not be expected to get any better.

I'd also like to point out that any VA rating you have may not be for your lifetime. You can be 100% and not get it for life. The P&T designation is what is generally lifetime, and not all 100% has the P&T designation. But even the P&T can be challenged if they have evidence your condition has improved, although that is a very rare challenge. P&T means permanent and total, for those that don't know. If you're P&T there's usually a damn good reason.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3874 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 4:38 pm to
I am appreciative of one’s military service, but the criteria that qualifies some of these people as disabled(especially if they continue to work) is highly suspect and overdue for reform.

And it will have its day too, along with other federal benefit programs. - because it just isn’t sustainableZ
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7567 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 4:43 pm to


Who is happy for the veterans getting benefits and who isn't?
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
23000 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 4:46 pm to
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You know they’re not going to tax you less, right?

What difference does that make?

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You did it, man! You took money from veterans so our government can send it overseas instead.

Which veterans had money taken away from them?

Do you know how stupid it is to suggest supporting an effort to eliminate fraud in gov't programs means you have to support sending money overseas?
Posted by Uatu
The Dark Side of the Moon
Member since May 2022
672 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 4:47 pm to
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P&T means permanent and total, for those that don't know. If you're P&T there's usually a damn good reason.


I am. And yes, there’s a damn good reason. I still put in 37 years in as a civilian worker before I got to P&T, so I was a taxpayer anyway.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158995 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 4:51 pm to
Don’t look into social security disability fraud if this is concerning.

I have a friend that is a SS disability lawyer meaning he helps fool the government to get people money.

Then never share a wall with an immigration Attorney.

Maddening.

Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
2138 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 4:53 pm to
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And if we are really going to be honest here, the vast majority of those entering the military did so because they were broke with not much brain power nor skills. So it's really not all that surprising that they feel the need to scam when they get out.


You’ve never spent time around the military, go frick yourself
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
2952 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 4:54 pm to
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Do you know how stupid it is to suggest supporting an effort to eliminate fraud in gov't programs means you have to support sending money overseas?


Oh. I understand now. You still think a DOGE check is coming

The percentage of veterans fraudulently rated is so low, it’s not worth the cost or effort necessary to determine at the individual level who is or isn’t legitimate. Instead what they would do - like they’re attempting to do now with sleep apnea and tinnitus - is draft blanket changes that lower the rating of every veteran.

Veterans vote overwhelmingly conservative and do so in large part because the GOP was reliably a defender of veterans benefits. That’s changed, clearly.

How do you think this ends?
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
2138 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 4:55 pm to
The ability to work is not a part of VA disability, I can still work but because of the burn pits my life will certainly be cut short and my quality of life has been negatively impacted.
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
37267 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 4:55 pm to
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55 years old is when they, typically, stop having the vet retest for certain things. They use 55 as the age that any condition you have will not be expected to get any better.

I'd also like to point out that any VA rating you have may not be for your lifetime. You can be 100% and not get it for life. The P&T designation is what is generally lifetime, and not all 100% has the P&T designation. But even the P&T can be challenged if they have evidence your condition has improved, although that is a very rare challenge. P&T means permanent and total, for those that don't know. If you're P&T there's usually a damn good reason.



I was 73 when I got my P&T, 55 when I got my first ratings.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
9296 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 5:06 pm to
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Veterans vote overwhelmingly conservative and do so in large part because the GOP was reliably a defender of veterans benefits. That’s changed, clearly.

You’re so close to figuring it out
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
18159 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 5:09 pm to
You were guaranteed disability payments upon retirement when you signed up?

That would be a pretty damn good incentive.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41591 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 5:11 pm to
I don’t understand the burn pit deal. Who decided burning a shite load of plastics was a good idea. And when did they figure out it probably wasn’t a great idea to breathe it?
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
2952 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 5:13 pm to
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Who decided burning a shite load of plastics was a good idea


The government.


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And when did they figure out it probably wasn’t a great idea to breathe it?


They always knew.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
17346 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 5:20 pm to
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I don’t understand the burn pit deal. Who decided burning a shite load of plastics was a good idea. And when did they figure out it probably wasn’t a great idea to breathe it?

Because they did it in Vietnam. It "worked" before.

But it's interesting how the fraud defender in the thread still hasn't explained why VA disability claims started skyrocketing after 2013.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46945 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 5:22 pm to
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You’ve never spent time around the military, go frick yourself


Yes I have spent plenty of time around military folks. Go frick yourself after you flnish your gay Aggy dance

Those with legit claims, fine.

Those with every ailment that the rest of the population also has....suck my dick with the fraudulent BS.

Yeah I know how the game is played.
This post was edited on 7/13/26 at 5:26 pm
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
2138 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 5:26 pm to
The vast majority of us serve because we are sons of Veterans and have been taught early on that service is honorable. When I joined the Army, I was a junior at A&M but I lacked discipline and I refused to take out student loans so rather than waste time I joined to serve
Posted by Boomer65
Norman
Member since Sep 2022
1324 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 5:28 pm to
I personally work with a lot of “vets” onsite. Majority of them never went on combat tours. Most got injured pulling wrench or had some accidents. They’re getting full $4,000 while earning $80-90k a year as civilian. Some actually bragged about it. It is what it is.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28687 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 5:28 pm to
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Those with every ailment that the rest of the population also has....suck my dick


We're talking about all branches, not just Navy.
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
3068 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 5:29 pm to
The ones with the lowest iqs will always let you know.
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