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re: 2/3's of Southern GOP'ers want to secede and nearly half of western Democrats want to
Posted on 7/15/21 at 11:06 am to Decatur
Posted on 7/15/21 at 11:06 am to Decatur
Funny how Switzerland and Singapore aren't worried about so-called Chinese domination. Chinese aren't like Europeans, obsessed with slavery, colonizing, invading, etc.
China will be the dominant power regardless but Chinese are smart, hard working, savers and there's over a billion of them.
China will be the dominant power regardless but Chinese are smart, hard working, savers and there's over a billion of them.
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 11:08 am to RollTide4Ever
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With that said, allowing cities to become city-states would be ideal solution. Articles of Confederation should've never been ditched.
This. Don't think of states with traditional borders, that's not how the split would be. It'd be city-states with like a co-op between them. Basically it'll be rural split from large cities.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 11:13 am to Indefatigable
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You’re describing the United States as established by the original Constitution. Getting back to that is the answer, not blowing it up
I'm not certain that what you say is accurate. Under the US Constitution, I'm not sure that the individual states had the right, as semi-autonomous provinces, to nullify United States Federal statues and Federal court rulings, as they saw fit, as semi-independent sovereign entities.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 11:16 am to RollTide4Ever
quote:Taiwan is on line 2.
Chinese aren't like Europeans, obsessed with slavery, colonizing, invading, etc.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 11:48 am to The Maj
Would make more sense to break up some of the states rather than putting all of PA in the NE or all of WA and OR in the PAC.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:16 pm to RollTide4Ever
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Funny how Switzerland and Singapore aren't worried about so-called Chinese domination. Chinese aren't like Europeans, obsessed with slavery, colonizing, invading, etc.
China will be the dominant power regardless but Chinese are smart, hard working, savers and there's over a billion of them.
Oh look. Someone wants to white knight for a Communist country.
Might want to look into your bullshite claim about their slavery practices and tell Taiwan that they don't have to worry about being colonized any time soon.
This post was edited on 7/15/21 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:55 pm to DaleGribble
I assume you support returning Hawaii to the royal family?
Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:59 pm to Blackie LeBlanc
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What are you implying here?
That this will be easier if people self-select ahead of time. And governments with the political incentive to do so might as well plant their respective flags in the ground and get that started.
Leftist states have been doing it for a while. Time for conservative states to do the same and let people elect to live somewhere that makes sense for them and their families. If we get to a point where a split is feasible, it'll make it far more logistically plausible.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:01 pm to aggressor
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and of course brisket being far superior to pulled pork.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:03 pm to SCLibertarian
Great brisket is better than great pulled pork
Mediocre pulled pork is much better than mediocre brisket
Mediocre pulled pork is much better than mediocre brisket
Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:05 pm to La Place Mike
The people of Alaska would not be happy with that map.
Alaska should be able to join the area it chooses.
Alaska should be able to join the area it chooses.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:10 pm to Pettifogger
The South Carolinian in me cannot agree with you, even if you may be right.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:12 pm to CU_Tigers4life
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Overall, 44% of Americans in the South said they would favor seceding from US
For comparison prior to the revolutionary war only like 25% supported breaking away from Britain
Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:13 pm to illinitiger
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Don't think of states with traditional borders, that's not how the split would be. It'd be city-states with like a co-op between them. Basically it'll be rural split from large cities.
It will take quite the police force to stop the raiding parties from the city states.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:14 pm to nola000
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The new States united in the South and mountain and mid west would absolutely surge economically. With new found control over immigration, a restriction would create labor shortages that drive up low-income wages creating new upward mobility for all of our poors and low skills/educated. Newly-acquired control over industry regulation at the national level would see a liberalization that would create a surge in industry growth and profitability. Hopefully it's coupled with a tightening of international trade, like Trump was doing, that will return manufacturing back home.
The immigration and trade stuff will just have a lot of the industries that are led by people who were already sympathetic to blue state morals to pack up and leave. There’s no incentive for them to stay if they are also going to lose money. No one with a choice likes living in Charlotte or Greenville or Spartanburg or Atlanta. They do it for the cheap labor.
The real solution is for Texas to leave. It’s the only red state that is self-sustaining, followed by a mass exodus of the working class from the rest of America to Texas. That would cripple the American economy and maybe force some soy boys and blue haired girls and their children to starve to death like we want and we’d get independence.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:16 pm to CU_Tigers4life
When half the left want to secede because they’re unhappy with fedgov and 70% of the right want to secede for the same reasons just opposite views, the situation is becoming untenable. There are only 2 outcomes, war or peaceful separation.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:17 pm to CU_Tigers4life
Time to dissolve the power for Washington and bring it back to our people.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:17 pm to MAADFACTS
Instead of all of us going to Texas, why don't we get the soy boys and blue haired girls and their children to leave our states and go to the commie states?
Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:22 pm to tide06
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Everyone wants a divorce because no compromise is possible between the two viewpoints that wouldn’t result in tyranny for the other side.
Can you elaborate for me the differences between the two sides that you see as irreconcilable?
I ask because while I see far more hostility between the two sides now than ever before, I actually think the two sides are closer on political philosophy now than they were when I was a kid in the 70s.
But maybe I'm wrong, so I would like to see what I might be missing or not thinking about.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:24 pm to deltaland
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When half the left want to secede because they’re unhappy with fedgov and 70% of the right want to secede for the same reasons just opposite views, the situation is becoming untenable. There are only 2 outcomes, war or peaceful separation.
The reality is, as we all anticipate, that once the right/red states go "that sounds great, let's do it" the leftist demands will get more and more poison pill-like because their entire ideology stands in opposition to people choosing autonomy.
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