re: 2/3's of Southern GOP'ers want to secede and nearly half of western Democrats want to

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Sounds like it's time for some honest compromising.

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Nah, already been too much of that, especially on the one way street to the left...

I am in full support.

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could have Missouri, West Virginia and Ohio

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new borders.

northern ohio is Yankee.
cleveland is liberal.
as we know rural usa is more conservative.
urban is more liberal.

main thing would be to allow free trade and movement of labor like European union.

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Only 44%? That’s kind of depressing

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I'm fairly impressed that many Dems aren't batshit crazy.

The only people that want us together are the DC Uniparty who are grifting us. They will murder you to preserve their grift.

Who knew so many Republicans want to see the future dominated by China? Huh

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The idea of splitting the US up "on paper" sounds as good as the concept of communism. The reality is it would be a disaster on an epic level. Everything we hate about other people from race to politics will go right to the top and a civil war would break out that would be devastating.

It won't be like the last one were people put on uniforms and had it out on various battlefields. This one will be door to door. Children, women, old and weak would be among the biggest casualties.

Commerce would end until we have some type of resolution.

The worst...The End of College Football....

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Secession does not mean war. War is actually very, very unlikely as that just isn't how Western countries separate anymore. They do it by elections and negotiations. Scotland and Quebec have come within a hair of separation in just the last couple of decades and Alberta is on deck.

You also have WAY too many people living in each state that are either from another state or have a ton of family in another state. This isn't 1860 where most people never went 100 miles from where they were born. Very, very few people actually like the idea of a hot war within the US and those that do are nuts.

The likely scenario is a vote followed by a negotiated settlement. It's in the interest of everyone to continue trade and for mutual defense for instance. In many ways a version of what the Founders intended with each state having a lot of autonomy but agreeing there are areas of mutual interest. The sticky part are things like the debt and people who get US government pensions.

Another sticky part is how it all divides up. I don't know that Texas is necessarily wanting to ally with the rest of the South for instance. Many states have dark blue cities that control large dark red areas, will they also break off?

The most likely scenario is you have a state like Texas decide to secede by itself as it is the most capable of being successful independently (exporter of food and energy, own power grid, and access to the Gulf) as well as having a history of being its own country. The US also needs Texas on friendly terms for strategic reasons and Texas is strong enough to give people pause about screwing with it, Texas could cripple the US in multiple ways and it has nearly 30 million people (with a very high gun ownership rate) and a GDP larger than Canada. Would the US win a hot war with Texas? Almost certainly, but it would be very, very painful to do so and it wouldn't be in anyone's interest to engage in it. Texas having a free vote to secede would really cause problems for the US being able to keep it from breaking away.

If Texas were to secede and show an example of how it can be done in a peaceful way then the floodgates could open for other states to either leave on their own or join together.

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Nope, they were polled and said what they think. If it came down to actually doing something, only 15-20% would have the balls to do something. To quote Mike Tyson, "everybody has a plan until they're punched in the mouth."

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Texas is going to eventually split.
Of that I can promise you.
Many of us do have “the balls to do something” and are working hard—daily—to achieve our independence.

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The westerners would regret it more than we would. Both sides would lose a lot but southern working class republicans would learn to be happy with less while the west coasters would get even poorer and probably more bitter due to their own denial that a non-college working class contributes the majority to society. There would be a lot more starving artist with masters and doctorates wondering why no one wants to pay them a lot of money for their vast sums of theoretical, inapplicable knowledge

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This.

All society really needs to survive and thrive is agriculture and access to water and raw resources. If you then add manufacturing capability you have a perfected society with a high quality of life.

All the doctorates and masters, bureaucrats and paper pushers, artists and athletes and music men and actors only marginally contribute to society's overall happiness and well-being.

The former has no problem surviving without the latter but the latter wouldn't last one week without the former.

With that and knowing what conservatives do and where they mostly live versus what liberals do and where they mostly live you'll quickly realize that the Liberals will fight tooth and nail to keep us deplorables from walking away from the marriage. We are the backbone. They are the leeches

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The only people that want us together are the DC Uniparty who are grifting us. They will murder you to preserve their grift.

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I think they are actually trying to divide us.

The second we all figure out that everyone is pissed off about the same thing, these assholes in DC will be in serious trouble. They have to keep us focused on hating each other instead.