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re: Spinoff. What's Wrong with Hunting Today?
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:11 pm to geauxbrown
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:11 pm to geauxbrown
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most pressing issues that could potentially endanger hunting?
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:12 pm to geauxbrown
Social media and hunting shows are a big part of the problem. I know people spending big money on leases that don’t hardly hunt at all. They just want to tell people they “were at the camp”.
Even on this site, look at the bickering that goes on when someone shoots a deer that’s not a “trophy” in the eyes of others or God forbid it was being chased by a dog.
It makes it easy to pick out the people that were raised hunting and those that came along when the fad started.
Even on this site, look at the bickering that goes on when someone shoots a deer that’s not a “trophy” in the eyes of others or God forbid it was being chased by a dog.
It makes it easy to pick out the people that were raised hunting and those that came along when the fad started.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:12 pm to geauxbrown
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Seems we would learn our lesson and not post things to social media.
I don’t have Facebook or anything else. This is the only social media site I use, and I don’t post pictures or even let it be known when I kill a deer.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:16 pm to geauxbrown
Nothing is "wrong" with it
People are realizing they don't have to be rich to hunt in the midwest and in the mountains. This is giving folks the urge to try new things. So the areas you've hunted with little pressure has guys 'sacrificing' a week of box stand hunting in pine plantation to go chase dreams
Things can seem more crowded but wildlife populations and thriving and chances to get out are great
People are realizing they don't have to be rich to hunt in the midwest and in the mountains. This is giving folks the urge to try new things. So the areas you've hunted with little pressure has guys 'sacrificing' a week of box stand hunting in pine plantation to go chase dreams
Things can seem more crowded but wildlife populations and thriving and chances to get out are great
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:17 pm to geauxbrown
quote:Yall turned it into bass fishing.
Spinoff. What's Wrong with Hunting Today?
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:33 pm to mylsuhat
I think what you're describing is what's right with hunting these days.
I'll tell ya what the problem is. frickin trail cameras.
I'll tell ya what the problem is. frickin trail cameras.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:35 pm to White Bear
Today specifically - the only thing that is wrong is that the season ended yesterday and I'm now going into a short lived state of depression until fishing season starts.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:35 pm to geauxbrown
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The vast majority of guys I know that pursue big deer do a lot more for the habitat than your typical meat hunters.
As a (usually) meat hunter I can't find a way to argue with this.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:48 pm to geauxbrown
quote:Nothing?
What's Wrong with Hunting Today?
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:49 pm to Loup
I think most of you hit the point pretty well as far as factors.
Social Media to include Hunting TV shows. These guys go on tv and in 30 minutes shoot what most would consider the buck of a lifetime. Gives people the wrong impression and they think all they have to do is go in the woods and boom, big buck will appear.
I remember hearing Michael Waddell in an interview state the first Real Tree episode he filmed (he started on the camera crew for Bill Jordan), they filmed for 17 days in order to have enough footage for a 30 minute show on an antelope hunt.
Single biggest issue I see, is the fact that it is becoming a rich mans sport. Cost of a lease and all that goes into running a club. Clubs become cliquish. Nothing is more fickle than a deer hunter.....Not even a woman.
Social Media to include Hunting TV shows. These guys go on tv and in 30 minutes shoot what most would consider the buck of a lifetime. Gives people the wrong impression and they think all they have to do is go in the woods and boom, big buck will appear.
I remember hearing Michael Waddell in an interview state the first Real Tree episode he filmed (he started on the camera crew for Bill Jordan), they filmed for 17 days in order to have enough footage for a 30 minute show on an antelope hunt.
Single biggest issue I see, is the fact that it is becoming a rich mans sport. Cost of a lease and all that goes into running a club. Clubs become cliquish. Nothing is more fickle than a deer hunter.....Not even a woman.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 3:03 pm to geauxbrown
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There were 15,000,000 hunting license sold in 2004 and just a little over that number in 2021
At the same time, don't most surveys show that the average age of hunters is getting older each year?
If so, that means we aren't recruiting enough young hunters, and those numbers will drop.
Also, every statistic I've seen shows LESS licenses bought over time. The last National Fishing and Hunting survey completed in 2016 showed something like 11.6 million hunting licenses bought in the US.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 3:07 pm to Bolivar Shagnasty
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Single biggest issue I see, is the fact that it is becoming a rich mans sport. Cost of a lease and all that goes into running a club. Clubs become cliquish
Not much has changed.
That’s how it’s been, historically.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 3:07 pm to geauxbrown
People complaining about hunting on message boards.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 3:15 pm to geauxbrown
Agreed. Our lease costs have nearly doubled in the past ten years all while Weyerhaeuser clear cut over 700 acres during the middle of the season (400 four years ago and probably 300 this fall).
Worst part is how much timber they waste by stacking it and then leaving it to rot. I’m sure they’ll double our lease again this fall to compensate for those losses.
Worst part is how much timber they waste by stacking it and then leaving it to rot. I’m sure they’ll double our lease again this fall to compensate for those losses.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 3:28 pm to geauxbrown
I think what most people think is wrong with hunting is the same thing that we see in general society: Entitlement, Instant Gratification, Lack of Kindness.
I don't find it to be anything exclusive to hunting. In fact I see less of it in the outdoors. But social media does bring a lot of the bad stuff to light that always happened. Social Media is literally there to get reactions out of people and putting out content. I get annoyed too, but at the end of the day put the phone down if it is bringing you down.
I don't find it to be anything exclusive to hunting. In fact I see less of it in the outdoors. But social media does bring a lot of the bad stuff to light that always happened. Social Media is literally there to get reactions out of people and putting out content. I get annoyed too, but at the end of the day put the phone down if it is bringing you down.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 4:04 pm to The Last Coco
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People are hunting for the likes and for the accolades, not because they just want to hunt. In other words, if Instagram didn't exist, the general feeling is that there would be a lot less people hunting and less pressure on the best public spots.
Not to mention, these Instagram hunters typically don't hunt the "right way" according to a lot of traditionalists. The sky blast ducks, only shoot deer with big horns, and generally are poor woodsmen who could care less about the broader scope of conservation and wildlife management.
Now get off my lawn.
Spot on. Excellent post
Posted on 1/31/22 at 4:07 pm to geauxbrown
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most pressing issues that could potentially endanger hunting
People not having places to hunt. Growing up pretty much any farmer would let me hunt on their property. We are more focused on raising trophy whitetails than we are on raising hunters. If we lose this generation we will lose much of our hunting.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 4:17 pm to SpillwayRoyalty
Emotional hunters have always been a problem in hunting. Jealosy, greed, attention seekers and even the “poor me’s”.
You don’t know a guy until you hunt and fish with him. You can tell a lot about someone and their character. From the “that was my deer” to “I shot that duck, this duck and even those ducks”.
You don’t know a guy until you hunt and fish with him. You can tell a lot about someone and their character. From the “that was my deer” to “I shot that duck, this duck and even those ducks”.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 4:29 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 1/31/22 at 4:38 pm to geauxbrown
I think a lot of the issues have been mentioned. I myself do not hunt as much as I used to. After a couple of seasons of pitiful duck numbers it just was hard to justify the time and expense. My son is in college and is not interested in coming home to hunt. His age group suffers from instant gratification and getting up early and sitting in the cold on deer stand have no appeal to him. I still enjoy time in the woods and was able to kill the best buck of my life this year. I did not post about it because to many it "could have used another year". I have learned to enjoy time doing things with the wife instead of being gone hunting every available weekend. I am fortunate to get invited on some quail shoots and rabbit hunts and go on a couple of those a year. So long story short, I still love the outdoors but don't try to revolve my life around it for several months a year.
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