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re: Snake bite through boots?

Posted on 2/28/19 at 5:47 am to
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12106 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 5:47 am to
I know a guy who climbed in a box blind in Tx and got bit by a rattler on his calf. He has a quarter size hole there now.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11488 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 6:11 am to
A guy I hunted with climbed in a ground blind in MS and dropped something. When he reached down to pick it up he felt something latch on his hand. He had to peel a cottonmouth off his hand.

He was in hospital for two weeks. Burn unit I believe. Bill was like $200k. He said it was the most painful thing that he ever felt or can imagine feeling.
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 6:30 am to
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He said it was the most painful thing that he ever felt or can imagine feeling


The bite or the bill?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81740 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 6:36 am to
Snake boots are for the mind, not for snake bites.
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
2949 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 6:42 am to
Over the years known of a couple of people that claimed they were “struck” on the boot hit the foot, but it never punctured skin. They may have been scared An just thought it hit the boot. Old timers swore that shrimp boots an lacrosse knee boots were thick enough to keep from being bit.
I know of one person who died an he was thought to have been bit in the neck.
had a cousin who was messing with a dead moccasin and got scraped by a fang.
I have never been struck but wear snakes boots, they are square toe lacrosse work boots style An are just as comfortable as my work boots so no reason not to wear if insulated is not needed.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20528 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 7:01 am to
When you think about their fangs are designed for piercing frogs, rats, etc. Any decent pair of boots are thicker and stronger than a rat’s skin. The biggest advantage is their height. But I don’t know a single person that has ever been struck above their normal boot.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30722 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 7:41 am to
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He said one. And that's because he was messing with it. One. Coming from a guy who literally worked in the southern jungles everyday for nearly 4 decades and who knew many accomplices who did the same, that statement was striking to me.
summer of 1983 one of the bites I witnessed.... was a rangeman on a survey crew messing with a big moccasin that was in a bucket.... got him right on the wrist.. he screamed like a girl all the way to the hospital
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21699 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 7:51 am to
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One day we were traversing through a swamp of the wolf river around Memphis and had a close call with an average sized cottonmouth. I asked the surveyor/engineer who I was training under, and who had 35 year's worth of experience, of how many surveyors he ever knew that had been bitten.

He said one. And that's because he was messing with it. One. Coming from a guy who literally worked in the southern jungles everyday for nearly 4 decades and who knew many accomplices who did the same, that statement was striking to me.



Yep. Snakebites are rare in the US. Truly accidental snakebites are even more rare. Most of the bites happen because somebody is being a dumbass. Accidents do happen though. A couple of years ago, a friend of mine reached to get something out of a shed and a copperhead bit him on the thumb. Those things happen, but it's usually some drunk idiot intentionally messing with a venomous snake.

As far as the OP's question - I've wondered myself. I think most snakebites probably wouldn't go through a tough boot. But, it would depend on where on the boot the snake bit, how large it was, and how serious it was about biting you. I've seen photos of snake fangs and hypodermic needles side by side under an electron microscope, and the fangs were cleaner and sharper. If you think about it, it wouldn't be all that difficult to push a hypodermic needle through most boots.

That said, when I go out looking for rattlesnakes to photograph I'm usually wearing low hiking shoes and shorts.
This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 9:09 am
Posted by Tiger 79
The Original Tiger 79
Member since Nov 2007
38059 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 7:57 am to
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Hunting the swamp I've seen guys shake or kick off smaller cotton mouths on their lacross hipboots. None of the old guys claim to have been bit through to the skin. I don't want to put it to the test because I've seen some big arse snakes back there



Years ago my uncle had a cottonmouth bite him on the toe of a Red Ball knee boot. He started slinging it all around hollering, that sumbitch wouldn't let go, I guess he got stuck in that thick rubber. We got him calmed down enough and took a stick and killed the damn thing. One of the funnier things I've seen..........he didn't think so
Posted by ducksnbass
Member since Apr 2014
754 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 8:13 am to
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how many of ya'll actually know anyone personally that was bitten by a venomous snake in the US..... that they were not handling or trying to mess with?


My cousin when she was about 10 years old. Walking at dusk in flip flops on their gravel driveway. Bit on her pinky toe by a copperhead. Spent a week in LSU hospital.
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
11489 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 8:38 am to
A buddies camp member got bit last year climbing over a barb wire fence in October. Once he hit the ground he felt something pop the side of his boot. Looked down with flashlight and a copperhead was there. He had snake boots on so no harm but when my buddy picked him up he said he was white as a ghost.

I wear some old uncomfortable chippewas. I just cant stomach walking out the woods in the dark when its hot. Gives me peace of mind.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81740 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 8:42 am to
I had one really close call, but it was during a golf round, not hunting/fishing. I went into some waist high ragweed looking for my ball and felt something squish under left foot. I looked down to see I was standing on a very small cotton. He was trying like hell to bit me, but he just didn't have the body length to reach my ankle. I got lucky it was so small. Didn't play the next three holes.
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
5205 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:27 am to
They didn't make snake proof boots years ago

You sure about this statement? Had a pair given to me 40 years ago so maybe we talking about pilgrim times?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:37 am to
One of my cousins got bit by a cottonmouth on the ankle. Spent a few days in the hospital. No permanent damage but it wasnt good either
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17837 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:42 am to
I wear these Chippewas year round, unless it's below freezing

Never really think about snakes, though,. The boots are just comfy. They protect me from briars more than anything
Posted by saintsfan1977
West Monroe, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
7793 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 11:37 am to
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You sure about this statement? Had a pair given to me 40 years ago so maybe we talking about pilgrim times?


You sure as shite couldn't buy them at Walmart or the mall. I've never heard of them until maybe a decade ago. I wear rubber boots.
Posted by keyboard_warrior9
BR
Member since Aug 2018
828 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:20 pm to
Are those Chippewas waterproof? been thinking about getting a pair
Posted by rented mule
Member since Sep 2005
2368 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:39 pm to
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A buddy got bit by a water moccasin in 8th grade near Indian creek. He hauled arse (big no-no) and then had a long drive to the hospital. They had to make 5 or 6 large incisions in his leg to relieve the swelling. Some intense scars and a lot of pain. 



I think we know the same dude.
Posted by LSUCouyon
ONTHELAKEATDELHI, La.
Member since Oct 2006
11329 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:12 am to
I’ve been in the woods either hunting or working as a forester for 60 years. We were always “down the Bayou” or in the swamp in Avoyelles parish starting about 7-8 years old.
I’ve been struck 3 times.
First day of cruising timber, I heard a tapping on the hard plastic wrap around zipper leggings I was given by the company. Looked down between my feet and a little copperhead about 8” Long was hitting the plastic. Squashed him with my boot.
Next time was probably 20 years later when a huge copperhead hit me hard on the side of my right leg. I had some industrial type black rubber boots. He didn’t get through, had 2 small holes with venom sliding down the boot.
Got a 4” thick limb and pushed him down in the mud about 3 ft.
Last time was about 10 years ago. Was on my 4 wheeler in a swampy area. Had to back off the trail to turn around and felt something hit my leather boot. Thought it was a stick until the guy behind me on the seat showed me the big cottonmouth I had run over.
Had a few scare me with maybe sudden movement near my feet, maybe a strike.
Never had a problem with the 4 or 5 rattlers Ive been in range of.
Canebrakes are cool snakes. I haven’t killed the last 3-4 I came across.
Posted by Quatre Pot
Member since Jan 2015
1550 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:09 am to
I also wear the Irish setters.
I do know a guy who was bitten through his Lacrosses when I was a teenager. He ran over a water moccasin with his three wheeler and got down to see what he’s killed. It was at night and the snake wasn’t dead. Bit through the top of his boot and into the top of his foot
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