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Posted on 8/1/17 at 2:32 pm to glhunter
you mind telling what timber company this is? I lease from weyerhaeuser and was just curious if that is their "going rate" in case any of our idiots mess up.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 2:34 pm to glhunter
They are taking into consideration what the 70 trees could have been worth. That's fair. If someone got over my boundary line and accidently cut some pines I can legally get 3 times market value on my pine trees.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 3:04 pm to j4lsu
Plum Creek
Posted on 8/1/17 at 3:09 pm to j4lsu
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I lease from weyerhaeuser and was just curious if that is their "going rate" in case any of our idiots mess up.
shite, we could go cut some trees on a club we want and let the club get fined and lose their lease, then pick it up.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 3:12 pm to glhunter
makes sense... Weyerhaeuser and Plum Creek merged I thought.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 3:20 pm to j4lsu
Weyerhaeuser bought Plum Creek
Posted on 8/1/17 at 3:22 pm to tenfoe
Correct, just use to calling it Plum Creek
Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:29 pm to No Colors
This is true. Used to manage property and hunting leases fell under my purview. Rules were pretty simple but my goodness people suck. We didn't have to let the club know when we were going to be there or what we were doing but o always let them know ahead of time out of courtesy
We planted pines one year and cleared an old logging set and planted it too. This was in January. There was a hunter there and the hunter told the planters to please not plant there he wanted to plant a food plot there. Mexican asked me about it and I told him to plant it absolutely The next year the same hunter bushhogged it and planted a food plot (said the trees looked dead). He had to go
Same club, we are doing a prescribed burn that weekend and I call the club president to let him know. He was ecstatic about us burning We burn Monday I get a phone call from one of the hunters on how we burned up one of his stands and that we owe him $700. It was a box blind in the ground and it had sentimental value to him. Told him I was sorry he was going to have to take it up with the president because It's not my problem and that the lease actually details all this out. He was offshore that weekend and couldn't move his stand. not my problem.
Many many more just like that
We planted pines one year and cleared an old logging set and planted it too. This was in January. There was a hunter there and the hunter told the planters to please not plant there he wanted to plant a food plot there. Mexican asked me about it and I told him to plant it absolutely The next year the same hunter bushhogged it and planted a food plot (said the trees looked dead). He had to go
Same club, we are doing a prescribed burn that weekend and I call the club president to let him know. He was ecstatic about us burning We burn Monday I get a phone call from one of the hunters on how we burned up one of his stands and that we owe him $700. It was a box blind in the ground and it had sentimental value to him. Told him I was sorry he was going to have to take it up with the president because It's not my problem and that the lease actually details all this out. He was offshore that weekend and couldn't move his stand. not my problem.
Many many more just like that
Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:35 pm to Ron Cheramie
All that said $7000 is a lot of money but I would bet it's that wording is in your lease somewhere
It is mighty close to hunting season so I doubt they are going to kick out a 30 person lease this close to hunting season if you haven't paid yet. Might be tough to fill that size of a lease in that timeframe
However if you have already paid dues for this year, there may be wording in the lease that says they can terminate the lease and not refund your money if a violation occurs
That's a tough one
It is mighty close to hunting season so I doubt they are going to kick out a 30 person lease this close to hunting season if you haven't paid yet. Might be tough to fill that size of a lease in that timeframe
However if you have already paid dues for this year, there may be wording in the lease that says they can terminate the lease and not refund your money if a violation occurs
That's a tough one
This post was edited on 8/1/17 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:47 pm to glhunter
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It is on the property line so we are trying to say that it may not be us but they are not buying it!
well shite, If I ever have a problem with a neighboring club I'm going to head over one night and do work with quality pair of loppers. Bet I could knock out 200 3-yo pines in a couple hours.
On the other hand I hope no one pulls this shite on me if I ever lease from a timber co.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 6:06 pm to Chuker
Can't wait til all our trees get cut and I can ride around like a drunk jackass on our land. Only a few more years and they'll all be gone.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 6:37 pm to Ron Cheramie
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Many many more just like that
I was managing a 20,000 acre block and one of our clubs fell out. It was about 5000 acres and included the camp house, barn, etc. So, I called up a friend of mine and gave him first option on leasing it. I told him I would give him 6 months to put a club together.
So he did. He works in a certain, small business group. And he asked several of the other members of this group to be in the club. He sold out memberships in less than a month. He ended up as the President of the club (which gave him some political pull in his business). Plus he got to hunt for free for putting it together.
Anyhow, their first season was a huge success. It was a better hunting experience for less money than they had ever had. Plus it was closer to where they lived. And they controlled everything. Perfect scenario.
Until Year 2 when I was riding around with him and I said: By the way, I am bringing a thinning crew in here next week to start thinning this 150 acre block over here.
And he freaked. I mean he started cussing me up and down. I honestly thought he was joking. It wasn't until I noticed his face was red and spit was flying that I realized he was serious.
My client paid $2200 an acre to own the place. And these guys paid $12 for the hunting rights. And you would think they were paying the fricking mortgage. I told him if he didn't like it to pound sand.
fricking deer hunters are the worst. It genuinely brings out the worst in normally rational people.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:01 pm to REB BEER
In LA., you can charge 3 times the estimated value of the tree.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:19 pm to PawnMaster
Sounds like some Blue Hill typical bullshite
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:30 pm to glhunter
My buddy did this in the middle of a planted cutover, took his dozer and plowed a 300 yard lane.
He didn't get caught though
He didn't get caught though
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:59 pm to The Torch
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My buddy did this in the middle of a planted cutover, took his dozer and plowed a 300 yard lane.
He didn't get caught though
If a timber company is leasing land to hunters, they shouldnt bitch about people clearing shooting lanes. A dozer seems excessive though.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 8:03 pm to saintsfan1977
If they are clearing timber, then yes they should. Their whole operation is to grow trees and sell trees. When someone cuts them down, that takes from their wallet
Posted on 8/1/17 at 8:37 pm to No Colors
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fricking deer hunters are the worst. It genuinely brings out the worst in normally rational people
You ain't kidding. People treat a damn deer like it's a 1 of a kind unicorn. I brought a friend hunting last year and I told him I just think of them as an overgrown rabbit. He thought I was crazy, until my son shot a button buck and we hung it up and skinned it like a rabbit.
Which reminds me how great that fried backstrap was this weekend.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:11 pm to Ron Cheramie
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If they are clearing timber
Im not talking about using chainsaws and felling trees. A freshly planted cutover though, ill wack those little 1-2ft trees out the way with a brush knife. They dont plant in rows anymore. It all machines now so there arent any fire lanes.
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