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re: Pond Update
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:20 am to Clyde Tipton
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:20 am to Clyde Tipton
I can overnight you a Deere and Volvo key and you could just handle up on it yourself.
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:54 am to 34venture
Do ponds like this need way to drain the water in case you need to repair the levee or dredge the bottom? I've heard of levees failing but out in a field it may not matter--anything important or valuable down the hill?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 10:37 am to BFIV
I am late to this thread but I have a friend in MS who dug his own pond, very similar to OP. Dug it out, built a levee and he installed a pipe system for overflow instead of the spillway method. 
His isn't PVC, it's steel(I think), and it's more basic than the image above. It is shaped like a U and the pipe on the dry side of the levee is 90 degrees back up to the sky and is same height as the trash rack/water line. His was obviously installed early in project.
Pond is 10-12 feet deep
His isn't PVC, it's steel(I think), and it's more basic than the image above. It is shaped like a U and the pipe on the dry side of the levee is 90 degrees back up to the sky and is same height as the trash rack/water line. His was obviously installed early in project.
Pond is 10-12 feet deep
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 8/15/18 at 10:53 am to Clyde Tipton
Some friends of mine just built a pond a couple of years ago. It was built on very gently sloping land so there are no true deep holes. The deepest part is only 6' with the exception of some 10' deep water in a hole near his pier.
These guys knew basically nothing about this, so everything was done with expert consultation. They were told anything deeper(in a pond like this) than 6' in still water like this is a risk for fish kill due to oxygen depletion. I cannot answer any questions, as this isn't my information-just what one of them told me when I asked.
Anyway, the bream and bass are absolutely thriving, even in the summer heat.
These guys knew basically nothing about this, so everything was done with expert consultation. They were told anything deeper(in a pond like this) than 6' in still water like this is a risk for fish kill due to oxygen depletion. I cannot answer any questions, as this isn't my information-just what one of them told me when I asked.
Anyway, the bream and bass are absolutely thriving, even in the summer heat.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 11:28 am to BFIV
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Has he shot transit on it yet? You don't need to get water in it to see how high it will be. Transit will tell you that. What he's saying sounds a lot like "We need to pass this bill so we can see what's in it.". I understand your frustration. It's your pond. I would insist he dig it to the depth I wanted or I'd find another contractor to finish the job. Shooting transit now will address all of your concerns and worries at this point. Can't stress that enough.
This is the best advice you can get. If he isn’t willing or have knowledge of shooting transit, then he has zero idea how deep the pond will be. It is guesswork and you will be unhappy with the pond because your fish won’t flourish.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:30 pm to Floating Change Up
More on depth related issues,
quote:
The primary source of oxygen in ponds is the atmosphere, the air above the pond. Oxygen diffuses into the water from the air. As long as the water can be exposed to the air, then an ample supply of oxygen can enter the pond. One of the leading obstacles for the diffusion of oxygen into the water is stratification of the water column. Stratification occurs when the sun heats the surface water while deeper water remains cool. The warm and cool layers do not mix. This disrupts the circulation of oxygenated water from the surface of the pond to the bottom. While the warm surface water receives oxygen from the atmosphere as well as from photosynthesis of phytoplankton, the cooler bottom layer becomes depleted of oxygen. As the summer progresses, oxygen levels drop severely in the bottom layer. Stratification can be a significant threat to fish health in small ponds because it increases the potential for a "turnover."
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How do I prevent a turnover?
Proper pond construction is important. The ratio of surface water (epilimnion) to deep water (hypolimnion) is a major determining factor for the frequency and severity of turnovers. Deep ponds with small surface areas often are more prone to severe turnovers because there is a larger volume of deep, low-oxygen water relative to the amount of oxygenated surface water. Broad, shallow ponds have fewer turnovers because less of the pond's volume is tied up in low oxygen deep water. Most stormwater ponds are shallow (6ft deep or less), but some are deeper. It is important to know the topography of the pond's bottom (bathymetry) as well as the average depth of the pond.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:41 pm to AlxTgr
Damn, Alx. You usually shite on my threads. 
Now you're posting supportive stuff.
Anyway, here is a topography masterpiece I just made while on my lunch break.
Now you're posting supportive stuff.
Anyway, here is a topography masterpiece I just made while on my lunch break.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:42 pm to Clyde Tipton
You need to put some markers of some kind on the levee where that little ditch is.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:35 pm to Clyde Tipton
quote:Just remember, perception is often counter to reality.
Damn, Alx. You usually shite on my threads.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:12 pm to AlxTgr
Still no structure in this pond? Drive an old car into the middle of the lake and leave its doors and trunk open.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:17 pm to MrLSU
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Still no structure in this pond? Drive an old car into the middle of the lake and leave its doors and trunk open.
I've actually fished in a pond that had an old VW Beetle in it with no wind shield, doors or trunk.
But as to structure, another poster asked about drop offs etc., I think we are going to stay pretty vanilla. There's extra costs associated with more dirt work and I think we are going to make it a bluegill, chinquapin and catfish pond. No bass, so not much of a need for a bunch of structure changes.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:18 pm to Clyde Tipton
plus you can always toss in christmas trees, etc
yall going to have dock?
yall going to have dock?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 10:30 pm to LSUvegasbombed
quote:
yall going to have dock?
and an upside down jon boat on the levee
Posted on 8/15/18 at 11:00 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
bream and bass are absolutely thriving, even in the summer heat.
My BiL has a "duck" pond that is about 1/3 acre and average depth of like 18". A lot of places its a foot and the very deepest is 3'...counting the mud you sink into. Pond was never meant for fish but was stocked with mosquito minnows for obvious reasons. About a year and half ago for shits and giggles he threw a couple small bass and small crappie into the pond. FF to the other day when he drained it to do some maintenance he found one bass and one crappie. The bass was 2lbs and the crappie 1lb. I guess they ate like kings with all those minnows to themselves. Never would've guessed that shallow of a pond that gets NASTY in the summer would allow those fish thrive.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 6:29 am to Clyde Tipton
quote:
I think we are going to make it a bluegill, chinquapin and catfish pond. No bass, so not much of a need for a bunch of structure changes.
Then install some gravel beds. Spots that are 12'x12' with at least 4" of gravel. Two beds will be good. This is a outstanding source for spawning beds. Install them in 3'-4' of water.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:46 am to fishfighter
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hen install some gravel beds. Spots that are 12'x12' with at least 4" of gravel. Two beds will be good. This is a outstanding source for spawning beds. Install them in 3'-4' of water.
yep
I always like watching the brim in our ponds spawn
Posted on 8/19/18 at 7:46 am to LSUvegasbombed
Any update?
We had enough rain here yesterday it would have put a nice puddle in that pond.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:55 pm to Cajunate
Bump.
How's the pond coming?
How's the pond coming?
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:49 pm to theOG
quote:
How's the pond coming?
I made a rock pile...
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:56 pm to Clyde Tipton
a pic that actually shows some depth
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